The big issue here is they felt they could deck a random person with absolutely impunity. And they were correct.
Odd_Net_951 on
> Tesco claimed CCTV footage of the incident had been “lost in a technical error”
Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the staff are in on it.
Emotional-Ebb8321 on
Iceland’s £1 bounty for catching a shoplifter suddenly doesn’t look like great value.
ANorthernBanana on
Rule #1 to snitching: make sure you can fight back.
tempy1256 on
Maybe shops should invest in better loss prevention…not normal folk risking their safety for some greedy corporation.
Or maybe police will actually investigate, CPS prosecute and the judges sentence these degenerate low life thieves accordingly…*’poor John Paul with only 173 previous convictions gets another suspended sentence’*
Current_Student_9897 on
Honestly why people care about shit being stolen from a multi billion pound corporation that does everything to extract as much money out of you as possible is beyond me.
bbyn0money on
The cctv aint surprising.. these huge chains should have 2k/4k cctv as standard.
xParesh on
My local Greggs has now put all their products behind glass doors to protect themselves from shoplifting.
Going shopping in store will be like going into an Argos soon where you order everything off a tablet instore, pay for it and then someone wheels out your shopping for you.
Shoplifting like many other petty crimes has effectively become decriminalised in the UK so it’s up to every person and business to protect themselves.
PlaneWar203 on
Never come between an addict and their fix.
I don’t really understand what the woman thought she was going to achieve tbh. I’m not of the thrives side at all, but damn, have some basic self preservation. Tesco aren’t going to give you anything for risking your life for their stock.
EnPassanTuah on
When a fully licenced security guard can’t lay a finger on a crackhead waltzing through the front door of his employer’s premises, arms full of meat and spirits, it’s clear that something needs to change.
brmdrivingschool on
and Iceland wants to pay you £1 to report a shoplifter, I don’t think it’s worth it
South_Buy_3175 on
Good on her for trying to do the right thing, she reported it and didn’t directly confront them.
But all this does is reinforce that no, you absolutely shouldn’t give two fucks about supermarket thieves.
The government don’t care, the police don’t care and even if you could just go batter them yourself you’d likely face sterner charges than they ever would.
This is simply what the country’s been reduced to.
Azalith on
But remember you can get £1 on your Iceland loyalty card
unbelievablydull82 on
Back in 2002 I got a job with blockbuster, the only reason there was a vacancy was because the store fired their security guard for running away when a staff member stood up to a shoplifter and got stabbed in the leg. They gave up on security guards, as it made no difference to the shop lifters
thebigbioss on
No one should be risking their safety to stop people shoplifting, as the person doing it is probably more aggressive or has nothing to lose. This includes the staff and security.
And most of the prolific shoplifter don’t care if the shop is staffed or has self service kiosks, so we are probably going to see more shops going the greggs or argos route.
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michalzxc on
Don’t be a hero unless you have a strength or weapon to defeat the opponent (big ask, with all weapons illegal)
Dadskitchen on
A lesson in minding one’s own business is the real lesson I get from this story tbh. I just couldn’t care less if I see people shoplifting whilst am in the Tesco’s, in fact part of me is cheering them on.
GhostManL33t on
Lawless Britain. A justice system and a police force that is too concerned with curbing free speech or fining the public for any offence they can think of rather than actually deal with violent criminals.
Our police are worthless.
Punch someone in the face and steal from stores? Fine.
Say something naughty on twitter? Off with your head!
plawwell on
This is why you should be able to carry mace to protect yourself. Or, failing that, at the very least a gun.
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Massive-Machine4049 on
Could they request a response from it director why corporate equipment failed when they are supposed to have a redundant system and backup could they sue Tesco for breach of their data compliance charter in their inability to provide the video
bddn_85 on
I spent 5+ years working in supermarket retail and an interesting pattern I observed is that female employees generally seemed to care far more about stopping theft than their male counterparts. It always struck me as weird and made me wonder what was going on there psychology.
kermitor on
“if you see someone shoplifting, you didn’t”
This the bullshit we have to see, someone tried to stop it and got hurt, there not stealing to feed there family, its all about selling the shit they can get something or just stealing. baby formula is the worst, Women hiding it in their push chairs, dresses, tops and burkas (worked in a supermarket, she manged to get 12 tubs, somewhere. angry cause she stole, impressed she managed to get that much, at the time local crack heads wished they could do that).
nobody is stealing fruit or bread in large numbers. food is getting more expensive every year, thefts are only making that more expensive, its a small margin, but it all adds up, just like food waste in supermarket but thats another kettle of fish.
would people even like it, if it tried to stop someone shoplifting, if i got attacked, how many people would call me a idiot for even doing anything
jjdubyou on
As much as I don’t agree with her getting punched in the face and hurt, she should have just minded her business. The situation had nothing to do with her at all and the only thing that will get harmed is the business. The staff didn’t put themselves at risk, why did she think it was a good idea to put herself at risk? Actions have consequences. Hopefully the people that punched her faced theirs but still. It’s not worth it. She could have just not said anything and none of that would have happened and she could have gone about her everyday life.
Robmeu on
Get bouncers. Not ‘Help the Aged’ with a radio, but proper, sinister, bouncers.
512134 on
Until our criminal justice system actually pushes out proper punishment, crime will continue to be an easy life for those that choose it.
Irrespective of this article there is absolutely no way I’d put myself in danger to ‘stand up’ to criminal gangs. Statements like this only serve as a distraction from our woefully underfunded police force and grossly lenient courts.
ImTalkingGibberish on
Police is spending their money on electronic surveillance instead of having bodies on the streets and it’s absolutely useless
Sachinism on
If it was Iceland, she’d have at least been a pound richer
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The big issue here is they felt they could deck a random person with absolutely impunity. And they were correct.
> Tesco claimed CCTV footage of the incident had been “lost in a technical error”
Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the staff are in on it.
Iceland’s £1 bounty for catching a shoplifter suddenly doesn’t look like great value.
Rule #1 to snitching: make sure you can fight back.
Maybe shops should invest in better loss prevention…not normal folk risking their safety for some greedy corporation.
Or maybe police will actually investigate, CPS prosecute and the judges sentence these degenerate low life thieves accordingly…*’poor John Paul with only 173 previous convictions gets another suspended sentence’*
Honestly why people care about shit being stolen from a multi billion pound corporation that does everything to extract as much money out of you as possible is beyond me.
The cctv aint surprising.. these huge chains should have 2k/4k cctv as standard.
My local Greggs has now put all their products behind glass doors to protect themselves from shoplifting.
Going shopping in store will be like going into an Argos soon where you order everything off a tablet instore, pay for it and then someone wheels out your shopping for you.
Shoplifting like many other petty crimes has effectively become decriminalised in the UK so it’s up to every person and business to protect themselves.
Never come between an addict and their fix.
I don’t really understand what the woman thought she was going to achieve tbh. I’m not of the thrives side at all, but damn, have some basic self preservation. Tesco aren’t going to give you anything for risking your life for their stock.
When a fully licenced security guard can’t lay a finger on a crackhead waltzing through the front door of his employer’s premises, arms full of meat and spirits, it’s clear that something needs to change.
and Iceland wants to pay you £1 to report a shoplifter, I don’t think it’s worth it
Good on her for trying to do the right thing, she reported it and didn’t directly confront them.
But all this does is reinforce that no, you absolutely shouldn’t give two fucks about supermarket thieves.
The government don’t care, the police don’t care and even if you could just go batter them yourself you’d likely face sterner charges than they ever would.
This is simply what the country’s been reduced to.
But remember you can get £1 on your Iceland loyalty card
Back in 2002 I got a job with blockbuster, the only reason there was a vacancy was because the store fired their security guard for running away when a staff member stood up to a shoplifter and got stabbed in the leg. They gave up on security guards, as it made no difference to the shop lifters
No one should be risking their safety to stop people shoplifting, as the person doing it is probably more aggressive or has nothing to lose. This includes the staff and security.
And most of the prolific shoplifter don’t care if the shop is staffed or has self service kiosks, so we are probably going to see more shops going the greggs or argos route.
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Don’t be a hero unless you have a strength or weapon to defeat the opponent (big ask, with all weapons illegal)
A lesson in minding one’s own business is the real lesson I get from this story tbh. I just couldn’t care less if I see people shoplifting whilst am in the Tesco’s, in fact part of me is cheering them on.
Lawless Britain. A justice system and a police force that is too concerned with curbing free speech or fining the public for any offence they can think of rather than actually deal with violent criminals.
Our police are worthless.
Punch someone in the face and steal from stores? Fine.
Say something naughty on twitter? Off with your head!
This is why you should be able to carry mace to protect yourself. Or, failing that, at the very least a gun.
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Could they request a response from it director why corporate equipment failed when they are supposed to have a redundant system and backup could they sue Tesco for breach of their data compliance charter in their inability to provide the video
I spent 5+ years working in supermarket retail and an interesting pattern I observed is that female employees generally seemed to care far more about stopping theft than their male counterparts. It always struck me as weird and made me wonder what was going on there psychology.
“if you see someone shoplifting, you didn’t”
This the bullshit we have to see, someone tried to stop it and got hurt, there not stealing to feed there family, its all about selling the shit they can get something or just stealing. baby formula is the worst, Women hiding it in their push chairs, dresses, tops and burkas (worked in a supermarket, she manged to get 12 tubs, somewhere. angry cause she stole, impressed she managed to get that much, at the time local crack heads wished they could do that).
nobody is stealing fruit or bread in large numbers. food is getting more expensive every year, thefts are only making that more expensive, its a small margin, but it all adds up, just like food waste in supermarket but thats another kettle of fish.
would people even like it, if it tried to stop someone shoplifting, if i got attacked, how many people would call me a idiot for even doing anything
As much as I don’t agree with her getting punched in the face and hurt, she should have just minded her business. The situation had nothing to do with her at all and the only thing that will get harmed is the business. The staff didn’t put themselves at risk, why did she think it was a good idea to put herself at risk? Actions have consequences. Hopefully the people that punched her faced theirs but still. It’s not worth it. She could have just not said anything and none of that would have happened and she could have gone about her everyday life.
Get bouncers. Not ‘Help the Aged’ with a radio, but proper, sinister, bouncers.
Until our criminal justice system actually pushes out proper punishment, crime will continue to be an easy life for those that choose it.
Irrespective of this article there is absolutely no way I’d put myself in danger to ‘stand up’ to criminal gangs. Statements like this only serve as a distraction from our woefully underfunded police force and grossly lenient courts.
Police is spending their money on electronic surveillance instead of having bodies on the streets and it’s absolutely useless
If it was Iceland, she’d have at least been a pound richer