Le garanzie di sicurezza per l’Ucraina non possono essere discusse senza la partecipazione della Russia, afferma Lavrov | Il ministro degli Esteri russo Sergey Lavrov ha affermato che “discutere seriamente di problemi di sicurezza senza la Russia è una strada per il nulla”.

    https://kyivindependent.com/us-uk-france-china-could-join-ukraine-security-guarantees-russias-lavrov-says/

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    1. chrisdh79 on

      From the article: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Aug. 20 that he believes security guarantees for Ukraine cannot be discussed without Russia’s participation.

      He added that “seriously discussing security issues without Russia is a road to nowhere.”

      Lavrov also said that the U.S., U.K., France, and China could provide equal security guarantees for Ukraine, insisting that Moscow must also play a role.

      “As for reports that the U.K., France, and Germany want to develop collective security guarantees, we support making these guarantees truly reliable,” Lavrov claimed.

      The minister argued that any deal should be based on the framework discussed during the Istanbul talks in 2022, which failed to produce a peace agreement.

      “Our delegation then agreed to work out security guarantees involving all permanent members of the UN Security Council — Russia, China, the U.S., France, and the U.K.,” he said. “Germany and Turkey were mentioned, as well as others that may be interested in joining this group.”

      His comments come as European leaders accelerate negotiations on a package of security guarantees for Ukraine in the event of a ceasefire. President Volodymyr Zelensky has demanded binding assurances from allies to prevent Russia from launching another invasion.

      French President Emmanuel Macron said on Aug. 18 that guarantees would not involve NATO membership but instead rely on a strong Ukrainian army backed by commitments from a “coalition of the willing,” which includes over 30 countries.

      European officials told the Kyiv Independent on Aug. 19 that a series of meetings among the countries participating in the “coalition of the willing” could take place in the coming days to work out the details.

      Bloomberg reported on Aug. 19 that a package of security guarantees for Ukraine might be finalized this week. European officials have reportedly discussed sending British and French troops to Ukraine, along with contingents from roughly 10 other countries.

      U.S. President Donald Trump told Fox News on Aug. 19 that Washington could provide air support as part of the guarantees but ruled out deploying U.S. ground troops.

    2. Fit-Bookkeeper9775 on

      That’s so ridiculous, the aggressor wants to be involved in actions stopping him

    3. Plane-Border3425 on

      Russia is the reason Ukraine needs security guarantees. Ukraine needs guarantees against Russian aggression. Is this not obvious on its face?

    4. Disastrous-Event2353 on

      Russia wants the security guarantees to involve itself so they could have a veto mechanism, so that next time they attack, no one is able to do jack shit.

      These negotiations will not end in anything productive, Russia must sadly be fought until they give up.

    5. DryCloud9903 on

      Mmmmmmmhm. Even if we were to agree on this principle (we won’t) – then why your boss being chicken to meet Zelenskyy and discuss it?

    6. coffeeNgunpowder on

      That just mean everyone needs to double down on ignoring these terrorists

    7. Tough-Training2563 on

      So, there is a violent neighbor, who wants to participate what security measures one would take against him?

      Sometimes absurdity and stupidity goes hand in hand. Como’n Lavrov, you can do better.

    8. Puzzleheaded-Cap1300 on

      Yeah – another circle that isn’t going to be squared.

    9. TheTench on

      The Russians seem increasingly despirate, as history and prosperity pass them by. Remember that all Trumps frantic moves to force a deal now, are actually being directed by his owners in the Kremlin.

      Like a trapped rat, Putin is desperate to escape consequences of his own blunders. He will go down history as the parasite who bankrupted Russia.

      Have fun being a plaything of Beijing for the next century, idiots.

    10. Nice_Classroom_6459 on

      “If we’re not there how can we be certain they won’t work?”

    11. arkitektmsh on

      And yet our leadership will probably parrot this line like literally today

    12. TechHeteroBear on

      Well. You blatantly violated the original security guarantee you agreed on for Ukraine so why should we let you in this time around?

    13. Mors_Umbra on

      No, russia doesn’t need to be involved lmfao…

      The entire purpose of security guarantees is promises of what people will do to keep YOU out. You do not need to be involved other than knowing that you will get your literal shit kicked in if you don’t stay out.

    14. wolfhound_doge on

      chat, guess dyadya Seryozha had his angry juice again

    15. Ecstatic_Account_744 on

      Yeah, if ruzzia was that concerned with the security of Ukraine, they’d fuck off back to Mordor and stop bombing civilians. Fucking twats.

    16. Whatever-That-Memes on

      They already participated in Budapest memorandum, we know how that played out.

    17. Weak_Tower385 on

      The only road leading to global security involves a defeated and surrendering Russian Army.

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