I feel for them as much as they did for the ukrainian civilians they killed.
SixEightL on
Russia is going to have to face a new generation of “Afghan War Veterans”. Completely forgotten, bitter, with PTSD up the whazoo. It’s going to have some serious generational damage (just like how the end of the Afghan War impacted Russian society).
Not going to be pretty.
GryphonGuitar on
I honestly have no sympathy for these people. I hope their suffering is interminable and their families are left broke and broken. These people became monsters by what they did, which means they took an active part in their own dehumanization. So I see them as monsters of their own making without any sympathy or guilt.
rogue-cylon on
Oh no! Anyway…
abzz123 on
Who cares?
MmmIceCreamSoBAD on
125k dead and 300k other casualties in an aggressive war and the Russian peasantry is as passive as theyve always been for centuries. Needing 20 new military hospitals is crazy
All this while health issues plague Russians already and their men have a life expectancy in the 60s
Smartimess on
With the continuing decay of the internet, it is not easy to find something about the veterans of the Sowjet Union who fought in WWII.
Many of the survivors lost limbs and were called “Samowar people”. If you don‘t know what this is, it‘s a specialized water boiler often used to make water for tea. Many soldiers had only one or two limbs left, like the handle(s) and spout of a Samowar.
While the Sowjets did honour their veterans with huge parades, medals and benefits, the crippled and shell shocked soldiers were often hidden in huge sanatoriums all over the country, out of the view of the common folk. They weren‘t threated bad, but that was a different time than and the Sowjet Union won the war. Ukraine is more like Afghanistan. The soldiers fighting for Russia now are war criminals at least, all of them.
Nayauru on
I don’t know what I feel about this. On one hand I can understand that they’ve been raised by generations of propaganda and brainwashing, pitted against Europe. I don’t know what choices they had.
On the other, even being a highly empathetic person, I can’t pity them. I’m just unable. Seeing those kids performing pro-war entertainment for them is the nail to the coffin of my compassion.
arunphilip on
I don’t think Moscow is in the least bothered, or sees this as a problem to grapple with.
mastablasta1962 on
Couldn’t care less tbh I’m more interested in how Ukrainian men are doing.
LucarioGamesCZ on
Damn that’s crazy if only there was a way to avoid this
Consistent_Catch9917 on
It is far worse. Afghanistan was somewhere around 25.000 killed and 75.000 to 100.000 injured with more than double the population with far more young men.
Its now 10 times the casualties with an impact 20 to 30 times higher due to the dissolution of the USSR and shifted demographics.
Its approaching a WW1 like impact. In 1914 the Russian Empire had about 160 million inhabitants with a far younger population.
A birth year in Russia at the end of the 19th century saw about 5.5 million births. In 2005 it was only 1.5 million. That’s almost 1:4. And we might have already seen more deaths of Russian soldiers relative to births in the respective birth years.
wales-bloke on
All the Russians maimed & killed in Putin’s war did so for *nothing*.
I wonder what will happen if/when that sinks into Russian society? And I hope natural causes doesn’t get him before his people do.
VivienneNovag on
It’s so horrible what the Russian leaders are doing to her people. I fear they don’t even see that they are hurting their own population the most. Sadly it’s obvious that they don’t care, that is worse, no matter the reason for it. That kind of internal strain can rip a nation apart from within. And that wouldn’t be good for the world at large, as it would leave weapons of mass destruction in the hands of what are at that point probably warlords.
MacaronNo5646 on
Oh so sad. Anyway…
Bloodbathandbeyon on
It’s a shame but they knew what they signed up for. I don’t buy any of that indoctrination bs. Fuck em
Zhukov-74 on
The biggest consequences of war are usually not felt until after the conflict is over.
Possible_Golf3180 on
Now that’s unfair, doesn’t Moscow know not having limbs makes it hard to grapple?
Hellstorm901 on
Yeah well that tends to happen when you start an unprovoked war against a country capable of fighting back
But don’t worry, I hear Moscow, and Russia in general, has great disabled access and facilities. You’ve got noting to worry about, it’s not like Russia is ruled by a government which created a culture where disabled people are looked down on or anything
Right-Theory7662 on
high fences and by the entrance is a checkpoint for document control. is sounds more like a prison, i never have see a hospital with high fences and checkpoints
Avibuel on
I dont know dude, it sounds to me a lot like russia is priming itself for the cheap foreign labor all the billionaires are so excited to hire in their businesses
Usagi2throwaway on
I mean they already have maimed men pushing themselves in makeshift trolleys in the metro wagons, wearing battle fatigues and begging for change. I reckon it’s part of their country, I don’t think it’ll affect them much.
Honest_Evidence2000 on
China will colonize Russia.
Routine-Visual-1818 on
If that is the case for Russia, what about Ukraine with a much smaller population?
Detective-Fusco on
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread, I suspect likely bots for the most part pushing a narrative. Let’s review this logically.
Does Russia have mandatory mobilization? No.
Does the Russian Army rely on volunteers / contract soldiers? Yes
Does the Russian Army take international mercenaries in as contract soldiers? Yes
Where does Russia recruit the international mercenaries? Far Eastern rural regions, countries in the African Continent, South Korean Mercenaries, and government funded North Korean mercenaries, Japanese and Chinese mercenaries. The list goes on, the pay is “good” for many men of these regions.
Whom does Russia rely on most for their assaults? Mercenaries – not Russian Volunteers. Russian volunteer losses require the Russian government to fund their widows for life – it’s cheaper for the mercenaries to be on the assaults.
Post war Russia the majority of maimed men will likely exceed in the international numbers more than their domestic, as their Russian troops are more back line infantry / supplies / drone units / artillery
One-Bird-8961 on
Vadler Putin is crippled in the head, it’s not a war hospital he needs…
HIK-13 on
Putin is worried about the low birth rates, maybe someone should inform him about how babies are made? It does not go like this: You take one million women, then you take one million dead men…
Olmops on
But then again, they don’t have to deal with the criminals anymore.
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I feel for them as much as they did for the ukrainian civilians they killed.
Russia is going to have to face a new generation of “Afghan War Veterans”. Completely forgotten, bitter, with PTSD up the whazoo. It’s going to have some serious generational damage (just like how the end of the Afghan War impacted Russian society).
Not going to be pretty.
I honestly have no sympathy for these people. I hope their suffering is interminable and their families are left broke and broken. These people became monsters by what they did, which means they took an active part in their own dehumanization. So I see them as monsters of their own making without any sympathy or guilt.
Oh no! Anyway…
Who cares?
125k dead and 300k other casualties in an aggressive war and the Russian peasantry is as passive as theyve always been for centuries. Needing 20 new military hospitals is crazy
All this while health issues plague Russians already and their men have a life expectancy in the 60s
With the continuing decay of the internet, it is not easy to find something about the veterans of the Sowjet Union who fought in WWII.
Many of the survivors lost limbs and were called “Samowar people”. If you don‘t know what this is, it‘s a specialized water boiler often used to make water for tea. Many soldiers had only one or two limbs left, like the handle(s) and spout of a Samowar.
While the Sowjets did honour their veterans with huge parades, medals and benefits, the crippled and shell shocked soldiers were often hidden in huge sanatoriums all over the country, out of the view of the common folk. They weren‘t threated bad, but that was a different time than and the Sowjet Union won the war. Ukraine is more like Afghanistan. The soldiers fighting for Russia now are war criminals at least, all of them.
I don’t know what I feel about this. On one hand I can understand that they’ve been raised by generations of propaganda and brainwashing, pitted against Europe. I don’t know what choices they had.
On the other, even being a highly empathetic person, I can’t pity them. I’m just unable. Seeing those kids performing pro-war entertainment for them is the nail to the coffin of my compassion.
I don’t think Moscow is in the least bothered, or sees this as a problem to grapple with.
Couldn’t care less tbh I’m more interested in how Ukrainian men are doing.
Damn that’s crazy if only there was a way to avoid this
It is far worse. Afghanistan was somewhere around 25.000 killed and 75.000 to 100.000 injured with more than double the population with far more young men.
Its now 10 times the casualties with an impact 20 to 30 times higher due to the dissolution of the USSR and shifted demographics.
Its approaching a WW1 like impact. In 1914 the Russian Empire had about 160 million inhabitants with a far younger population.
A birth year in Russia at the end of the 19th century saw about 5.5 million births. In 2005 it was only 1.5 million. That’s almost 1:4. And we might have already seen more deaths of Russian soldiers relative to births in the respective birth years.
All the Russians maimed & killed in Putin’s war did so for *nothing*.
I wonder what will happen if/when that sinks into Russian society? And I hope natural causes doesn’t get him before his people do.
It’s so horrible what the Russian leaders are doing to her people. I fear they don’t even see that they are hurting their own population the most. Sadly it’s obvious that they don’t care, that is worse, no matter the reason for it. That kind of internal strain can rip a nation apart from within. And that wouldn’t be good for the world at large, as it would leave weapons of mass destruction in the hands of what are at that point probably warlords.
Oh so sad. Anyway…
It’s a shame but they knew what they signed up for. I don’t buy any of that indoctrination bs. Fuck em
The biggest consequences of war are usually not felt until after the conflict is over.
Now that’s unfair, doesn’t Moscow know not having limbs makes it hard to grapple?
Yeah well that tends to happen when you start an unprovoked war against a country capable of fighting back
But don’t worry, I hear Moscow, and Russia in general, has great disabled access and facilities. You’ve got noting to worry about, it’s not like Russia is ruled by a government which created a culture where disabled people are looked down on or anything
high fences and by the entrance is a checkpoint for document control. is sounds more like a prison, i never have see a hospital with high fences and checkpoints
I dont know dude, it sounds to me a lot like russia is priming itself for the cheap foreign labor all the billionaires are so excited to hire in their businesses
I mean they already have maimed men pushing themselves in makeshift trolleys in the metro wagons, wearing battle fatigues and begging for change. I reckon it’s part of their country, I don’t think it’ll affect them much.
China will colonize Russia.
If that is the case for Russia, what about Ukraine with a much smaller population?
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread, I suspect likely bots for the most part pushing a narrative. Let’s review this logically.
Does Russia have mandatory mobilization? No.
Does the Russian Army rely on volunteers / contract soldiers? Yes
Does the Russian Army take international mercenaries in as contract soldiers? Yes
Where does Russia recruit the international mercenaries? Far Eastern rural regions, countries in the African Continent, South Korean Mercenaries, and government funded North Korean mercenaries, Japanese and Chinese mercenaries. The list goes on, the pay is “good” for many men of these regions.
Whom does Russia rely on most for their assaults? Mercenaries – not Russian Volunteers. Russian volunteer losses require the Russian government to fund their widows for life – it’s cheaper for the mercenaries to be on the assaults.
Post war Russia the majority of maimed men will likely exceed in the international numbers more than their domestic, as their Russian troops are more back line infantry / supplies / drone units / artillery
Vadler Putin is crippled in the head, it’s not a war hospital he needs…
Putin is worried about the low birth rates, maybe someone should inform him about how babies are made? It does not go like this: You take one million women, then you take one million dead men…
But then again, they don’t have to deal with the criminals anymore.
Oh no! Anyway…