La compagnia cinese BYD ha ottenuto oltre 2.000 auto elettriche a Livorno, in Toscana, con una delle più grandi flotte del mondo.
https://www.shippingitaly.it/2025/07/22/a-livorno-primo-approdo-italiano-ed-europeo-della-nuova-nave-byd-xian/
di mac_ita
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better than tesla I guess
1. Subsidize your product to make it cheap
2. Flood your competitors market
3. Watch them go bankrupt
4. Profit
5. Repeat
EDIT: To all the “Europeans” replying you have to be a very special kind of person to root for the collapse of your own economy. I’m not saying European companies are saints and something needs to change, but to destroy everything for the benefit of a country that is not friendly is defeatist to say the least.
So now it came down to BYD vs. Tesla?
This is obviously going to end well, thanks EU !
Can we chill a bit?
2025 1H – Top EV Models sold in Europe are mostly Europeans.
If Europe can sell cars in China then Europe needs to allow the same. Or else it’s hypocrisy
Don’t stay near these cars.
The EU must urgently impose 100% tariffs or more on Chinese-made vehicles, because allowing Beijing to exploit our open market after decades of abuse would be a catastrophic failure of leadership. China forced European carmakers to build inside its borders, capped their ownership at 49%, and extracted their intellectual property under threat of exclusion. Those policies were never about cooperation, they were about stealing European innovation to prop up Chinese state-backed industries. Now, China is flooding Europe with subsidised electric vehicles produced through that coerced knowledge transfer, while still shutting out our products at home with punitive tariffs. This is not competition, it is manipulation. Reciprocity demands we respond with equal force – no Chinese car should enter the European market on easier terms than Europe was ever allowed in China.
On top of this, China continues to insult the global community by hiding behind its “developing country” status. With an $18 trillion economy and control of 14% of global exports, Beijing still claims exemptions at the WTO, skews shipping costs in its favour, avoids binding climate obligations despite being the world’s largest polluter, and even taps into aid and cheap loans meant for genuinely poor nations. This is outright cheating – it robs true developing countries of the support they need while letting China bankroll massive subsidies, over $280 billion annually, to industries like steel, solar, and EVs. China cannot play superpower abroad while crying poverty to dodge global rules at home. The EU has a responsibility not only to protect its own industry, but also to defend global fairness by standing up to this hypocrisy. Tariffs on Chinese vehicles are not protectionism – they are justice and should be massively increased.
We’re stupid. We deserve what will happen to us.
The fact that people talk about putting tariffs in Chinese cars instead of European automakers having affordable Evs is insane .Greed is destroying European automakers not Chinese cars
ok great so when i can i finally buy a new byd for <10k? Because i really want to. but theyre still SO expensive. a dolphin is still ~22k. where are my 9k seals??
European car manufacturers just aren’t innovating enough. VW had to do a deal with Rivian for their technology platform. Too many think you can copy from an ICE car platform to an EV. This is why the Chinese are winning they have started from scratch. The modern EV is software on wheels. Are there any startups in Europe like they had in the USA such as Tesla, Rivian or Lucid? None that can I think of.
Let’s be objective: yes, China is subsidizing their EV industries butit’s not like they are lowering artificially the end price in order to do dumping, their incentives are aimed at giving competitive financing, develop the supply chain, subsidize automation and innovation in the industry: basically in actually increasing quality and competitivity. Also yes, Chinese wages are lower but their EV would be competitive even if they were as high as European one and still, Chinese factories are becoming so automated that labour cost is becoming ever less incisive in the final price.
Tesla in the US and Stellantis in EU also are well subsidized yet the Chinese production line is the efficient one, why? Because they decided to tackle the structural problems that our politician love so much to ignore: they have a stable and cost-effective grid, an unified economic plan, well studied infrastructure, integrated economies between regions, high speed rails; while they play the long game we Italians don’t have a cohesive economic objective since the 60s and our PM is celebrating having become a “touristic superpower”.
EU tariff against Chinese EV and solar panels on paper are meant to protect competitiveness but ironically they are just protecting EU uncompetitiveness
As long as our politicians will consider improvising something in order to steal a couple of votes more preferable than having a cohesive plan, we will always fall behind china.
I’m a big supporter of buying European, but if it’s one European industry that does not deserve any kind of sympathy it’s the car manufacturers who have fucked themselves over and over and gotten saved over and over, and has even been prioritized over far more deserving industries. Losing the EV market was their own fault
How many of those will sell?
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China is still getting the hang of making cars. Give it a decade and Europe won’t be able to compete. I’m British so I don’t care, same thing happened to us in the 70s. Unlucky lads 🤣
Some sort of E-Day