L’economia europea non può crescere senza migranti, avverte Lagarde
https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-economy-cant-grow-without-migrants-lagarde-warns/
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L’economia europea non può crescere senza migranti, avverte Lagarde
https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-economy-cant-grow-without-migrants-lagarde-warns/
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Get some good ones then, not the ones who are here to sponge and terrorise.
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We grow robots.
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None of these bureaucrats and politicians live in buildings, communities which are packed full of irregular migrants. For them it’s just numbers on a sheet. It all looks like growth in the long term, and the social fabric be damned. They’re arrogant enough to think they’re the ones holding it together, and not the actual Europeans, European communities and European values, which make countries function day-to-day. So out of touch, and when the populist right takes power they will have nobody to blame but themselves.
Her fingers up in the air since 1995 when someone forgot her in the fruit dryer for too long.
We need to grow the economy so the rich could get richer off cheaper labour.
It’s delaying the inevitable. I would rather have economy in ruins, than economy in ruins plus ethnic conflicts.
What value is growth if it is only driven by a growing population?
No
“Without working migrants”. Humanitarian refugees from third world countries without education and language skills needs a long time to become net contributors to the economy if they become one at all.
Not to say that persons value is determined by his/hers contribution to the economy. The point is that you can’t justfy all forms of immigration using this argument, when only some forms of immgration are actually beneficial to the economy.
So? Economic growth is not a goal unto itself.
Sure, we all understand that. But there is a big difference between legal and illegal immigration.
Pick the brightest ones via green-card policy and make sure there are coming in manageable numbers.
Social mobility is a significant ingredient for prosperity for everyone
**Foreign workers delivered half of the bloc’s jobs growth since 2022, but populist backlash could shut the door on future gains, ECB chief said.**
The European Union’s economy would have looked far weaker after the pandemic without foreign workers, European Central Bank chief Christine Lagarde said Saturday, warning policymakers not to ignore migration’s role even as it fuels political tensions.
Speaking at the U.S. [Federal Reserve’s annual symposium in Wyoming](https://www.kansascityfed.org/research/jackson-hole-economic-symposium/), Lagarde said an influx of foreign labor helped the eurozone absorb successive shocks like soaring energy costs and record inflation, while keeping growth and jobs intact. [Employment in the bloc](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/labour-market) expanded by 4.1 percent between late 2021 and mid-2025, nearly matching [gains in gross domestic product](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/NAMQ_10_GDP__custom_7680558/bookmark/table?lang=en&bookmarkId=a4ce6a9d-7ef1-48f1-a5bf-e23a717fcf75&c=1696497560747) (GDP), she noted.
“Although they represented only around 9 percent of the total labor force in 2022, foreign workers have accounted for half of its growth over the past three years,” Lagarde [told the gathering of central bankers](https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2025/html/ecb.sp250823~2f476a9a97.en.html). Without that contribution, she added, “labor market conditions could be tighter and [output lower](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat).”
Lagarde singled out Germany and Spain as examples. Germany’s GDP would be about 6 percent lower today without migrant labor, while Spain’s strong recovery also “owes much” to foreign workers, she said. Across the eurozone, employment has expanded by more than 4 percent since 2021, even as central bankers pushed through the steepest rate hikes in a generation.
The ECB president argued that migration has played a crucial role in offsetting Europe’s shrinking birth rate and growing appetite for shorter working hours. That, she said, helped companies expand output and damped [inflationary pressures](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/main/data/database) even as wages lagged behind prices.
But Lagarde also acknowledged the politics. Net immigration pushed the EU’s population to a record 450 million last year, even as governments from [Berlin](https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-is-now-leading-the-charge-on-europes-anti-immigration-turn/) to [Rome](https://www.politico.eu/article/greece-pushes-eu-to-take-tough-line-on-migration/) move to restrict new arrivals under pressure from voters flocking to far-right parties.
“Migration could, in principle, play a crucial role in easing labor shortages as native populations age,” Lagarde said. “But political economy pressures may increasingly limit inflows.”
She stressed that Europe’s labor market has emerged from recent shocks in “unexpectedly good shape.” But she cautioned against assuming that dynamic will last: demographic decline, political backlash and shifting worker preferences still threaten the eurozone’s resilience.
Why do we need the economy to grow? Why does everything need to grow ad infinitum? That’s not realistic nor sustainable
Fuck your growth, give me a stable economy where I can afford things
invest in the robot development industry and research, it will grow, you can employ a lot of people, become industry leader, export robots, make money. Use robots to replace migrant workers to do jobs nobody wants to, force companies to pay robots as much as they would pay migrants, but the pay goes to finance UBI and such, and fund whatever hell you need.
More free time, no migration from incompatible cultures needed, Europeans will have more free time and money to spend and enjoy life.
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someone should show me statistics of economic gain vs loss due to immigration.
May be implement a long term strategy where people can afford to have children ? Nah, just import people from somehwre else.
Wow, I wish we had some sort of intelligent machines that could do a lot of the work people do and reduce the need for labour.
I guess it will never happen and we need millions of migrants instead.
Economy can’t grow if people are so fleeced that they have little or no spending money at the end of the month. Rising prices of rents, utilities and groceries mean that many families go into survival mode while wealth is accumulated by a small percentage of top earners. Young people can barely afford to compete in the housing market with vulture funds, cash buyers and councils and home prices are in no way related to wages.
Governments love blowing their own trumpets about how more and more electricity is from natural sources and yet, weirdly, electricity prices are going up. We are being told that natural gas, LPG, turf, coal etc are not good for heating our homes but no affordable alternative is offered. I have solar panels and while during summer it’s fine, I produce more than I use and sell back to the grid, during winter I often don’t even make enough to heat my water.
Migrants are being brought in because of lobbyists who make lots of money on housing them and providing them with services. It’s ridiculous to assume that already stretched housing and health services will benefit from influx of people. I get that birth rates are declining but instead of incentivising people to procreate by making sure families can afford homes, childcare and food, a random group of mostly males is being brought in in hope somebody will make a profit before the society collapses.
No country should allow migration that’s greater than 1% of the population from regions culturally distant because assimilation cannot happen until they’re housed, employed and familiarised with the language and culture.
Make her live next to them
They said the same about the slavery. It was needed for the economy! So you can GFY with that story!
Or you know, make having a babies worth while, giving free housing to parents who have 3+ kids would highly increase birth rates. Yes and I know that it costs money now, but it will cost way more in the future
Why can’t any country come up with a rationale immigration policy? Yes we need more people to sustain our welfare model but two migrants aren’t the same:
Already educated + 10 points
Educated in labour shortage areas + 15 points
Cultural proximity (ie secularity, tolerance of minorities….) of origin country + 15 points…
Such a dishonest conversation. People aint complaining about migrants, they are complaining about the type of migrants.
You are giving more and more power to far rights if you dont stop treating all types of migrants the same: legal and illegal, educated and uneducated, working for sectors with shortage vs infosys cognizant.
It hasn’t grown with immigrants. EU is now below the US by 30%. 20 years ago they were on par.
The question is: why did Europe end up in a place where it can’t grow without migrants?
Just have to be the right kind of immigrants, people that align with our culture and that wants to work and not just receive welfare.
Maybe we don’t need to grow then. 🤷
She’s absolute lunatic. She doesn’t even know what she is talking about. She can only see numbers and nothing else…