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Another law that will never be enforced due to a lack of manpower. The British Public have seen it all before

Its mental how parties only ever seem to have a good idea when they are no longer in power.

Its almost as if they know whats good for people, so they tell the people what they want to hear to get in power. But then when in power, they feel like they no longer need the people so they do everything they can to advance themselves personally, fucking over the people.

Very simple, if you’re playing something out loud on public transport that device should be taken from you.

Need to clamp down on anti-social behaviour, it’s becoming far too normal.

How about requiring all mobile phones to have a headphone jack and/or be supplied with headphones or ear pieces?

That won’t be of any use. Make legal to grab the phone of these idiots and throw it by the window.

I love the idea but we live in a country with not enough police to the point that phone theft and shoplifting are now endemic, so to make this illegal is just a performative gesture that won’t actually resolve anything.

My concern with this would be the risk of mistaken identity. Let’s say I’m sitting on the train and I’m scrolling my phone. Someone sitting close to me is blasting loud music. I’m confronted. The other person sees what’s happening and turns their sound off, realising someone else is about to take the fall. How do I prove it wasn’t me?

Pointless as it will be unenforceable.

If someone is disturbing you with loud music on public transport and you don’t confront them now, you won’t confront them after this measure is in either.

The police would need to leave their station or squad car to even be aware of this issue.

I really dislike media being played out loud on public transport, and it gets at me more than it should. Sure, I can put headphones on to drown others out, but I shouldn’t have to. I’m up for some form of revision to The Public Service Vehicles (Conduct of Drivers, Inspectors, Conductors and Passengers) Regulations 1990, which already bans it in section 6.1 (l), but something is clearly unworkable as it’s not being enforced. So any proposal to ban something that the law already bans is at the very least ill-informed, and far more likely to be being disingenuous.

I wouldn’t object to people being fined for playing media out loud, but I suspect that the reason no one is enforcing the rules is the lack of capacity to do so – in having enough conductors / guards available, to their ability to issue fines, to anyone’s desire to face the aggressive consequences of trying to enforce the rule.

So, given that, I’d most like to see a public information campaign on this. A message and purpose would need to be agreed. Something to highlight to people playing media out loud, whether a teenager or a pensioner, that they are being a massive bell end – and the only reason they can hear their media is that everyone else has the decency and consideration not to being playing media out loud, which would creat an utter cacophony. Everyone else keeps the media on quiet out of respect for each other that the out-loud idiot on broadcast doesn’t have.

No one decent plays media out loud on public transport. No one kind does. No one who thinks about others does. It’s a thoughtless and selfish thing to do when they do it; a self-owning declaration that someone is a worse person than the people around them.

I’d I think that some public information campaigns to highlight this would really help by making it an area of public discourse and understanding. And probably much more than some MP trying to snap off a soundbite to to attach their name to some column inches. A public campaign won’t solve the problem, but I really do think that adding social and cultural weight behind the issue might help reduce the sharply increasing frequency of occurrence.

Of course, underneath all of this is that yes, removing the headphone jack from phones did cause people to feel like they need wireless headphones that a lot of people simply don’t have the spare cash to buy as they are a luxury item, and they retaliate by playing media out loud, even though there is unlikely to ever be enough urgency to actually need to have to do so. But wired headphones, or adaptors for the lightning / usb sockets are not expensive, so that argument doesn’t track. But even if it did, for the very poorest among us, what would it cost the govt to subsidise a bulk purchase some of the cheapest ones, and have them available to anyone who really does need to order one for free?

Need measures against people having their phone on speaker as well. Bizarre behaviour, why do people like broadcasting their private conversations?

We’ve made a generation of (some) people that are utterly shameless and don’t care about how they affect those around them.

They’ve always existed but the number is higher

You don’t legislate your way out of that. Something along the line has raised these people incorrectly.