Il rapporto occupazionale-popolazione dei rifugiati arrivati in Germania nel 2015 ha raggiunto il 64% (il rapporto per l’intera popolazione tedesca è del 70%)
Il rapporto occupazionale-popolazione dei rifugiati arrivati in Germania nel 2015 ha raggiunto il 64% (il rapporto per l’intera popolazione tedesca è del 70%)
Thank you for giving the data for the whole populus as a context!
Various-Cooker on
So essentially this would disengage every argument of the right wing about them just coming here to profit from our social systems.
If only people were basing their opinion and arguments on facts instead of ideology.
PainInTheRhine on
Sounds like the often repeated ”but they are all young men” is actually something positive from economic perspective
MapPristine on
We need charts like that for all EU countries!
icankillpenguins on
Funny, tradwife is also a trend among Westerners 🙂
But generally not bad at all, however it says that the salaries are substantially lower than the average. Which usually means a skillset that is not very desired. This could also mean that when Germans do the nicer works, refugees do the shitty works. This can create social problems in the future.
SuggestionMedical736 on
Data has never been the problem. The problem is that the people who have an agenda only use the data selectively. Also, they always move the goal post.
See the Netherlands. The only country in the world where they scream that immigrants and their descendants are causing a wave of crime, while at the same time, they close 26 prisons because they have nobody to put in them as crime caused by immigrants dropped 60% over 20 years. It’s funny really.
ibmi_not_as400_kerim on
While I don’t condone seeing humans like a machines that are meant to make money, I would love to see the cost-benefit-ratio between an adult refugee vs a locally-born individual (doesn’t matter if ethnically German or not).
The average cost of education alone costs the government something along the lines of 140K Euros, before a German-born individual contributes to market activity (it takes even longer before they become a net contributor, if ever). Add to that other costs such as healthcare, tax deductions, etc. and you get a huge amount of investment per individual.
I suspect a refuge could be unemployed for 10+ years and then find a minimum wage job and would financially be a better ROI than the majority of locally-born persons.
Dietmeister on
30% unemployment rate for the populace 18-64? That cannot be, that’s insane
FourArmsFiveLegs on
Russia has been herding people from the Middle East and North Africa into Europe for over ten years now
figuring_ItOut12 on
The benefit of immigration is over the generations. And tasty food, he said knoshing on curry bratwurst.
NoMain3446 on
*cough* Ukraine *cough*
Turbulent_Worth_2509 on
Unemployment in the working age range is 30%? … That seems high.
sunkenwaaaaaa on
Did you know many visa types in germany don’t allow to work? I asked for a visa for studies, and was only given a visa “to search” for studies, which didn’t allow me to work for 6 months, extended to 9 due to slow bureaucracy. All that time I could have had a student work, adding to the pension system and paying taxes, but I guess it’s more to make it hard for immigrants.
Acidburnsblue on
Problem is that countries like Denmark or the Netherlands have higher employment rates basically from day 1.
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Source of graph: https://iab.de/en/publications/publication/?id=15067601
Source of value for whole German population:
https://doku.iab.de/kurzber/2025/kb2025-17.pdf
Thank you for giving the data for the whole populus as a context!
So essentially this would disengage every argument of the right wing about them just coming here to profit from our social systems.
If only people were basing their opinion and arguments on facts instead of ideology.
Sounds like the often repeated ”but they are all young men” is actually something positive from economic perspective
We need charts like that for all EU countries!
Funny, tradwife is also a trend among Westerners 🙂
But generally not bad at all, however it says that the salaries are substantially lower than the average. Which usually means a skillset that is not very desired. This could also mean that when Germans do the nicer works, refugees do the shitty works. This can create social problems in the future.
Data has never been the problem. The problem is that the people who have an agenda only use the data selectively. Also, they always move the goal post.
See the Netherlands. The only country in the world where they scream that immigrants and their descendants are causing a wave of crime, while at the same time, they close 26 prisons because they have nobody to put in them as crime caused by immigrants dropped 60% over 20 years. It’s funny really.
While I don’t condone seeing humans like a machines that are meant to make money, I would love to see the cost-benefit-ratio between an adult refugee vs a locally-born individual (doesn’t matter if ethnically German or not).
The average cost of education alone costs the government something along the lines of 140K Euros, before a German-born individual contributes to market activity (it takes even longer before they become a net contributor, if ever). Add to that other costs such as healthcare, tax deductions, etc. and you get a huge amount of investment per individual.
I suspect a refuge could be unemployed for 10+ years and then find a minimum wage job and would financially be a better ROI than the majority of locally-born persons.
30% unemployment rate for the populace 18-64? That cannot be, that’s insane
Russia has been herding people from the Middle East and North Africa into Europe for over ten years now
The benefit of immigration is over the generations. And tasty food, he said knoshing on curry bratwurst.
*cough* Ukraine *cough*
Unemployment in the working age range is 30%? … That seems high.
Did you know many visa types in germany don’t allow to work? I asked for a visa for studies, and was only given a visa “to search” for studies, which didn’t allow me to work for 6 months, extended to 9 due to slow bureaucracy. All that time I could have had a student work, adding to the pension system and paying taxes, but I guess it’s more to make it hard for immigrants.
Problem is that countries like Denmark or the Netherlands have higher employment rates basically from day 1.
Dont show this the Germans
Needs more upvotes 🙂