Not quite, unlike Russia we haven’t rolled our tanks into a foreign country…like Ireland
Specific-Fig-2351 on
If so then change it parameters then and stop this flood of people coming into the country illegally who cant seem to be deported even though they have been convicted of systematically raping children, ffs . Someone do something because it’s causing alot of unrest and it’s gonna cause problems for everyone if the public have to vote a right wing government in to do something about it.
D0wnInAlbion on
It also puts on par with Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan and South Korea.
The sensible halfway house is repeal Blair’s Human Rights Act so that people can still appeal to the ECHR but remove its conventions automatically becoming part of UK law.
GnolRevilo on
The Online Safety Act is something that puts us on par with Russia and Belarus in terms of censorship.
WiseBelt8935 on
it would also put us on par with Canada and Australia which doesn’t sound that bad
AirResistence on
Its rich that starmer is saying this while allowing bigot groups create their own legal loopholes to discriminate against a group of people.
NotOnYerNelly on
That’s just a lie. I don’t want to leave the ECHR but the ECHR was not implemented into UK law until 1998. Did we have no human rights before that?
Why does our media lie so much.
woody83060 on
The argument is how can we criticise other countries for human rights abuses if we don’t hold ourselves to the very highest standards.
But the reality is that nobody gives a damn whether we criticise them or not. The global south just sees us as the old colonial power that not very long ago invaded Iraq on false pretences.
IgneousJam on
Good. I believe Russia, at least, enforces its own border
DarthPlagueisThaWise on
Oh yeah before the ECHR we were basically living in the purge.
TurpentineEnjoyer on
This is the one time I think I actually agree with him. Leaving the ECHR is just such a remarkably stupid move.
I understand WHY people want to do it, mostly around allowing us to remove unwanted immigrants.
But to do so is allowing the government to strip you away of all human rights and trusting them to give you the good ones back.
So the only question you should be asking yourself here is, do you trust the government?
Edit: And stop comparing a potentially Reform-led UK outside the ECHR to Australia, New Zealand, Canada or South Korea. None of these countries have gotten rid of their domestic human rights laws, while our boy Nigel Farage is trying to get rid of ours along with the ECHR.
New Zealand also incorporates Maori culture and traditional social/environmental values into its human rights laws. We have nothing like that to fall back on here.
Nigel wants to scrap human rights so that we can be turned into peasants in a neo-feudal hellscape.
monkeycheese7 on
Keeping ECHR puts us on par with Afghanistan once all of them have come here
Ok-Journalist612 on
Keith is so confused these days.
He claims to want human Rights but is a fully authentic bang to rights caught on camera independently recorded interview released to the general public – genocide denier.
Make your mind up Keith you can’t have both?
Admiral-snackbaa on
So then Mr Stamer, what were we enduring before the EHRC?
tpool on
He’s 100% right on this as much as I disagree with lots of what he says/does.
M0dzSuckBallz100 on
Fuck around and find out. ECHR has been abused by our courts, gone against the will of the people and parliament has not had the balls to fix it. It’s as good as gone 2029 and you can all blame labour and conservatives.
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Not quite, unlike Russia we haven’t rolled our tanks into a foreign country…like Ireland
If so then change it parameters then and stop this flood of people coming into the country illegally who cant seem to be deported even though they have been convicted of systematically raping children, ffs . Someone do something because it’s causing alot of unrest and it’s gonna cause problems for everyone if the public have to vote a right wing government in to do something about it.
It also puts on par with Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Japan and South Korea.
The sensible halfway house is repeal Blair’s Human Rights Act so that people can still appeal to the ECHR but remove its conventions automatically becoming part of UK law.
The Online Safety Act is something that puts us on par with Russia and Belarus in terms of censorship.
it would also put us on par with Canada and Australia which doesn’t sound that bad
Its rich that starmer is saying this while allowing bigot groups create their own legal loopholes to discriminate against a group of people.
That’s just a lie. I don’t want to leave the ECHR but the ECHR was not implemented into UK law until 1998. Did we have no human rights before that?
Why does our media lie so much.
The argument is how can we criticise other countries for human rights abuses if we don’t hold ourselves to the very highest standards.
But the reality is that nobody gives a damn whether we criticise them or not. The global south just sees us as the old colonial power that not very long ago invaded Iraq on false pretences.
Good. I believe Russia, at least, enforces its own border
Oh yeah before the ECHR we were basically living in the purge.
This is the one time I think I actually agree with him. Leaving the ECHR is just such a remarkably stupid move.
I understand WHY people want to do it, mostly around allowing us to remove unwanted immigrants.
But to do so is allowing the government to strip you away of all human rights and trusting them to give you the good ones back.
So the only question you should be asking yourself here is, do you trust the government?
He’s right.
For anyone who believes otherwise, read this: [European Convention on Human Rights](https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/d/echr/convention_ENG) and tell us exactly which right (s) you’d want to remove for yourself.
Racists will be angry, as per usual.
Edit: And stop comparing a potentially Reform-led UK outside the ECHR to Australia, New Zealand, Canada or South Korea. None of these countries have gotten rid of their domestic human rights laws, while our boy Nigel Farage is trying to get rid of ours along with the ECHR.
New Zealand also incorporates Maori culture and traditional social/environmental values into its human rights laws. We have nothing like that to fall back on here.
Nigel wants to scrap human rights so that we can be turned into peasants in a neo-feudal hellscape.
Keeping ECHR puts us on par with Afghanistan once all of them have come here
Keith is so confused these days.
He claims to want human Rights but is a fully authentic bang to rights caught on camera independently recorded interview released to the general public – genocide denier.
Make your mind up Keith you can’t have both?
So then Mr Stamer, what were we enduring before the EHRC?
He’s 100% right on this as much as I disagree with lots of what he says/does.
Fuck around and find out. ECHR has been abused by our courts, gone against the will of the people and parliament has not had the balls to fix it. It’s as good as gone 2029 and you can all blame labour and conservatives.