La Casa Bianca non capiva cosa offriva davvero Putin? Gli europei non possono dire ciò che i funzionari americani hanno concordato con il leader russo.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/archive/2025/08/us-russia-diplomacy-europe/684034/?gift=NBdGSmKfDQzLc1B6N1F-gcciFGfdedPr6uHAKvmP4oo&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

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    14 commenti

    1. plutoisap on

      What a clusterfuck
      Let’s all assume Putin will always do the cunty thing and take it from there

    2. InCloud44 on

      They will take off all the american troops from eastern part of Europe and they won t make any exercises in Europe anymore. This is all about USSR.

    3. Embarrassed-Fault973 on

      It’s very likely. Trump seems to hear what he wants to hear and the U.S. administration seems to operate as a reality distortion field.

      They also say things and then try to make those things the reality by just continuing to repeat them, even when they’re blatantly not facts, as that’s what worked for them domestically.

    4. Patient_Depth_8507 on

      Agreed with a russian leader? Yeah, its alwalys a lie

    5. vladoportos on

      What a strange title, as European I did understand very clearly… Putin told Trump “You sucky sucky and love me whole night…” Trump responded “ok” and Putin didn’t even say thank you … 😀 and maybe discussed if Trump can hide in Russia if the Epstein files ever leak out…

    6. CertainMiddle2382 on

      I’m pretty certain Trump doesn’t even read the content of his “deals”.

      What he is interested in, and arguably a master of, is political and PR momentum.

      Imo Putin also isn’t interested about anything constructive. The only thing Putin needs is prolonging the war. At this point, he needs constant conflict to stay alive.

    7. anders_hansson on

      It’s a very odd situation. Europeans trying to negotiate with Russia via a proxy, the U.S.

      Every extra communication stage adds confusion and room for misinterpretations. It’s very hard to find common ground to make progress in this format.

    8. Fastluck83 on

      Trump doesn’t care about Ukraine. Trump only cares about Trump. He is looking for a face-saving way out of this war and that’s where his ambitions end.

      Putin’s knows that and his “offers” are only meant to play into this desire. Nothing about them was ever truly about ending the war in Ukraine, which he still believes he can win by continuing to fight.

    9. Responsible-Room-645 on

      The “White House” doesn’t understand anything other than how to steal everything that isn’t bolted down to the bedrock.

    10. dial_m_for_me on

      Two senile old men who don’t even speak the same language had a chat and the world has to try and decipher what either of them tried to say

    11. Cloudyxlady on

      Seems like there’s a real disconnect between Washington and European Allie’s-miscommunication at this level can have huge consequences.

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