She most definitely is not. She’s as crooked as the rest
dekor86 on
I’d prefer we call out any private landlords acting as MP’s. Is a huge conflict of interest. Couldn’t care whether they are from Croydon or Eton.
webbyyy on
They’ve already acknowledged that she didn’t break the law, but broke the ministerial code. It’s pure projection by the Tories. They didn’t have a problem breaking the code before this.
John_Williams_1977 on
Another page from the good book of bad faith arguments.
Judge-Dredd_ on
She’s an experienced politician and anything but inarticulate. If she takes legal and financial advice to set up trusts and methods of avoiding stamp duty, she’s liable for any consequences.
To be clear, Rayner has as much right to avoid paying tax and manage her finances as the rest of us. But its gross hypocracy against the values of the party to which she belongs.
The attacks against her are not because she’s “articulate” and “working class” – its because there seems to be rules of conduct that the governing party expect us to follow whilst ignoring those rules themselves
bffg2000 on
No, it’s because she reeks of double standards. Socialist my arse.
Sea-Caterpillar-255 on
They’re because there is very little actual news AND people are very unhappy with the current government.
Throw the dogs in the press some meat and see how they stop caring about which minister picks their nose etc…
gymdaddy9 on
She long left her working-class roots behind As you can tell from the policies, she makes to try and kill the working-class
jammy_b on
Orwell said it best 80 years ago:
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which”
lightreee on
i know that the cabinet has now a lot more working-class background people in it, which is good, but please can we vet them more. Peter Kyle is utterly useless to lead the high-tech industry in the UK. Please can we get *experienced* working-class people?
Saying this as someone who was working-class growing up and now works in software
AlwaysCreamCrackered on
I think it’s more because it’s shown her to be a massive hypocrite.
Fish_Fingers2401 on
Of course. Any chance at all to claim discrimination must be jumped on. Absolute joke.
One_Unique_Username_ on
She would be spitting venom at a Tory or Reform MP if they did the same whilst she was in opposition.
Pogeos on
school drop out, couple years in council job, then career politician…. I don’t see anything working class here.
boingwater on
She’s an MP for Tameside, who doesn’t even live here. She supports the destruction of hundreds of acres of local countryside for her rich developer mates.
Just like other Labour MPs in Tameside (Andrew Gynne for example), she treats us all with contempt, while enriching herself.
xParesh on
It’s actually because she made a reputation for herself in opposition against all the things she’s doing now.
0Bento on
There’s two things here.
1. Legitimate scrutiny of the deputy Prime Minister’s actions and tax affairs.
2. An element of the press who hate Rayner because she is a working class woman in the second-from-top job in politics.
These two things can both be true.
Elmarcoz on
The only reason I have to pay tax is because the haters are well jel
Glad_Bison_416 on
Is she being attacked unfairly a lot because of her background? Yes. Should she still not do tax avoidance (even if technically legal)? Obviously also yes
Blank3k on
Working class? She’s the deputy prime minister with 3 homes…
But, I’ve paid no attention to whatever these tax attacks are, whatever they are I have no doubt they spurred on by the dregs at GBNdwd.
yammaniow726 on
That’s not the case, she is just another hypocritical, trough emptier like most other politicians
Lorry_Al on
It’s because she’s a hypocrite. Like Diane abbot, who sent her kids to a private school but always goes on about equality and unfair private education is.
They are the pigs of Animal Farm.
RedofPaw on
When I first heard about it it did sounds like, at best, something which was a bad look.
And it is still a bad look. Most people will never get the chance to ‘save’ 40 grand by legally avoiding tax. It also means Raynor is now unable to criticise anyone else for taking advantage of the system in this way, which is probably not ideal.
I wonder, is this a problem we want to solve? And more importantly… is it a problem that her critics want to solve.
I wonder if the Tories criticising her for this have ever taken advantage of anything similar. Because if they have…. well, the hypocricy would of course be on brand.
If this is a problem we want solved then lets close the loophole. Let’s also have HMRC investigate the tax of every MP to find all the loopholes to be closed.
But that doesn’t appear to be what her critics want. They appear to just want a stick to beat her with.
Loreki on
The thing about people who seize power by purging opponents is that they can never stop purging. They’ve built no real base of support, so must attack any other voice which might be a threat in the future.
Anyway, that’s just a general musing, what’s this about Labour now?
TheL0wKing on
How are we still talking about this?
Angela Rayner got divorced from her husband. Following their divorce she sold her share in and removed her name from their shared family home.
Then she bought a new property. As it was the only property she owned there was only the normal stamp duty.
That’s it.
The family home she may be living in and the ministerial property she has access to are irrelevant, she does not own either of them. It’s the same as someone renting a house and then buying a new one, it doesn’t count as a second home.
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She most definitely is not. She’s as crooked as the rest
I’d prefer we call out any private landlords acting as MP’s. Is a huge conflict of interest. Couldn’t care whether they are from Croydon or Eton.
They’ve already acknowledged that she didn’t break the law, but broke the ministerial code. It’s pure projection by the Tories. They didn’t have a problem breaking the code before this.
Another page from the good book of bad faith arguments.
She’s an experienced politician and anything but inarticulate. If she takes legal and financial advice to set up trusts and methods of avoiding stamp duty, she’s liable for any consequences.
To be clear, Rayner has as much right to avoid paying tax and manage her finances as the rest of us. But its gross hypocracy against the values of the party to which she belongs.
The attacks against her are not because she’s “articulate” and “working class” – its because there seems to be rules of conduct that the governing party expect us to follow whilst ignoring those rules themselves
No, it’s because she reeks of double standards. Socialist my arse.
They’re because there is very little actual news AND people are very unhappy with the current government.
Throw the dogs in the press some meat and see how they stop caring about which minister picks their nose etc…
She long left her working-class roots behind As you can tell from the policies, she makes to try and kill the working-class
Orwell said it best 80 years ago:
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which”
i know that the cabinet has now a lot more working-class background people in it, which is good, but please can we vet them more. Peter Kyle is utterly useless to lead the high-tech industry in the UK. Please can we get *experienced* working-class people?
Saying this as someone who was working-class growing up and now works in software
I think it’s more because it’s shown her to be a massive hypocrite.
Of course. Any chance at all to claim discrimination must be jumped on. Absolute joke.
She would be spitting venom at a Tory or Reform MP if they did the same whilst she was in opposition.
school drop out, couple years in council job, then career politician…. I don’t see anything working class here.
She’s an MP for Tameside, who doesn’t even live here. She supports the destruction of hundreds of acres of local countryside for her rich developer mates.
Just like other Labour MPs in Tameside (Andrew Gynne for example), she treats us all with contempt, while enriching herself.
It’s actually because she made a reputation for herself in opposition against all the things she’s doing now.
There’s two things here.
1. Legitimate scrutiny of the deputy Prime Minister’s actions and tax affairs.
2. An element of the press who hate Rayner because she is a working class woman in the second-from-top job in politics.
These two things can both be true.
The only reason I have to pay tax is because the haters are well jel
Is she being attacked unfairly a lot because of her background? Yes. Should she still not do tax avoidance (even if technically legal)? Obviously also yes
Working class? She’s the deputy prime minister with 3 homes…
But, I’ve paid no attention to whatever these tax attacks are, whatever they are I have no doubt they spurred on by the dregs at GBNdwd.
That’s not the case, she is just another hypocritical, trough emptier like most other politicians
It’s because she’s a hypocrite. Like Diane abbot, who sent her kids to a private school but always goes on about equality and unfair private education is.
They are the pigs of Animal Farm.
When I first heard about it it did sounds like, at best, something which was a bad look.
And it is still a bad look. Most people will never get the chance to ‘save’ 40 grand by legally avoiding tax. It also means Raynor is now unable to criticise anyone else for taking advantage of the system in this way, which is probably not ideal.
I wonder, is this a problem we want to solve? And more importantly… is it a problem that her critics want to solve.
I wonder if the Tories criticising her for this have ever taken advantage of anything similar. Because if they have…. well, the hypocricy would of course be on brand.
If this is a problem we want solved then lets close the loophole. Let’s also have HMRC investigate the tax of every MP to find all the loopholes to be closed.
But that doesn’t appear to be what her critics want. They appear to just want a stick to beat her with.
The thing about people who seize power by purging opponents is that they can never stop purging. They’ve built no real base of support, so must attack any other voice which might be a threat in the future.
Anyway, that’s just a general musing, what’s this about Labour now?
How are we still talking about this?
Angela Rayner got divorced from her husband. Following their divorce she sold her share in and removed her name from their shared family home.
Then she bought a new property. As it was the only property she owned there was only the normal stamp duty.
That’s it.
The family home she may be living in and the ministerial property she has access to are irrelevant, she does not own either of them. It’s the same as someone renting a house and then buying a new one, it doesn’t count as a second home.