Weirdly enough I’m ok with this. Dartford Crossing is pretty cheap really and £3.50 is ok. But then it’d suck if you had to cross it every day.
arsebiscuits71 on
So, doing away with the booths because they cause congestion was a bit misleading then
CountryMundane8392 on
The original deal for the Dartford Crossing was that tolling would cease after it had paid for itself, a milestone reached 15 years ago. In February 1999, the government promised to make the crossing toll-free by the end of 2003, a decision met with approval from drivers and motoring groups.
GBParragon on
I wonder if they’ve realised that the crossing will need replacing within the next 20 years an they want to start saving for the replacement
GayWolfey on
I always says everytime I go across. It’s such a negative purchase as you are paying to sit in traffic for an hour. Getting rid of barriers did fuck all
InformationNew66 on
As usual, it’s the “you only have to pay temporarily” until it becomes permanent.
“A brief history of Dartford Crossing
The trunk road crossing opened in three stages.
The first west tunnel was completed in 1963 and – to cope with increasing traffic volumes – the east tunnel was built in 1980.
The two tunnels are 1,430 metres long.
The Queen Elizabeth Bridge was opened to traffic on 30 October 1991 to the tune of £120million. This included £30million to lay the approach roads.
**In 1999, the Government announced that tolling would end in 2003 – the date it estimated the bridge would be paid off.**
But it U-turned on this decision just two years later, citing that making the crossing free of charge would create more traffic. ”
Hiking the price wont help congestion, do they think people will swim instead…..get in the sea mate
BetterCallTom on
I’d like to see the fees waived if you’re having to queue for more than 2 miles. I think this could be tracked with another camera?
I’m convinced a big part of the traffic problem on the tunnel side is the combination of narrowness, darkness and the dip as you enter the tunnel. It’s 50mph but everyone crawls at 20ish. Nothing that can be done about it now but it’s obvious the trouble is that side as the bridge is normally much quicker.
llamaz314 on
Interesting that the historically poorer East London has to pay for every river crossing but the historically wealthy West London has bridges everywhere for completely free
Snap_Ride_Strum on
I’m still amazed that, as per the original promise, the M4 toll for the Prince Charles Bridge, going into Wales, was scrapped a few years back.
Of course congestion has increased. 10m more people live in the country than 20 years ago. People aren’t creating traffic for fun – this is the reality of ever-more outdated infrastructure.
Little-Tradition2311 on
How will it reduce congestion? Whenever I drive over the dartford crossing it is because it is the shortest and most practical route. Increasing the price by 40% isn’t going to offset the huge time and fuel cost difference of taking a different route.
Nedonomicon on
The company responsible for building the bridge offered to build a second bridge free of charge once the first was completed as long as they could collect the tolls , they were refused
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Weirdly enough I’m ok with this. Dartford Crossing is pretty cheap really and £3.50 is ok. But then it’d suck if you had to cross it every day.
So, doing away with the booths because they cause congestion was a bit misleading then
The original deal for the Dartford Crossing was that tolling would cease after it had paid for itself, a milestone reached 15 years ago. In February 1999, the government promised to make the crossing toll-free by the end of 2003, a decision met with approval from drivers and motoring groups.
I wonder if they’ve realised that the crossing will need replacing within the next 20 years an they want to start saving for the replacement
I always says everytime I go across. It’s such a negative purchase as you are paying to sit in traffic for an hour. Getting rid of barriers did fuck all
As usual, it’s the “you only have to pay temporarily” until it becomes permanent.
“A brief history of Dartford Crossing
The trunk road crossing opened in three stages.
The first west tunnel was completed in 1963 and – to cope with increasing traffic volumes – the east tunnel was built in 1980.
The two tunnels are 1,430 metres long.
The Queen Elizabeth Bridge was opened to traffic on 30 October 1991 to the tune of £120million. This included £30million to lay the approach roads.
**In 1999, the Government announced that tolling would end in 2003 – the date it estimated the bridge would be paid off.**
But it U-turned on this decision just two years later, citing that making the crossing free of charge would create more traffic. ”
[https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-15043865/Dartford-Crossing-charge-increases-Queen-Elizabeth-Bridge-paid-off.html](https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-15043865/Dartford-Crossing-charge-increases-Queen-Elizabeth-Bridge-paid-off.html)
Hiking the price wont help congestion, do they think people will swim instead…..get in the sea mate
I’d like to see the fees waived if you’re having to queue for more than 2 miles. I think this could be tracked with another camera?
I’m convinced a big part of the traffic problem on the tunnel side is the combination of narrowness, darkness and the dip as you enter the tunnel. It’s 50mph but everyone crawls at 20ish. Nothing that can be done about it now but it’s obvious the trouble is that side as the bridge is normally much quicker.
Interesting that the historically poorer East London has to pay for every river crossing but the historically wealthy West London has bridges everywhere for completely free
I’m still amazed that, as per the original promise, the M4 toll for the Prince Charles Bridge, going into Wales, was scrapped a few years back.
Of course congestion has increased. 10m more people live in the country than 20 years ago. People aren’t creating traffic for fun – this is the reality of ever-more outdated infrastructure.
How will it reduce congestion? Whenever I drive over the dartford crossing it is because it is the shortest and most practical route. Increasing the price by 40% isn’t going to offset the huge time and fuel cost difference of taking a different route.
The company responsible for building the bridge offered to build a second bridge free of charge once the first was completed as long as they could collect the tolls , they were refused