I’d definitely have tried this when I was a kid haha
OGSyedIsEverywhere on
> Once, children who didn’t turn up at school were dubbed truants, their records were marked and parents were punished. But today, more than a million children and teens are persistently absent. Chloe Combi talks to them and their parents and asks how we got to a place where **nearly 20 per cent of children don’t go to school**
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Unfortunately, this figure is correct
NinetiesSnowflake on
“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all outta ideas”
I was a school refuser as a child, I kicked, I screamed, my parents had to drag me out the car as I held onto the door. I would show up to school most days red in the face after crying all the way there.
My parents just kept taking me to school, and that was that, eventually I accepted what I could not change and upon reflection as I am now in my mid twenties, I miss my school days very much.
Children can be irrational, they’re governed by a different system of emotion and thought process, and it’s simply down to the parents to just take them to school. Your 9 year old isn’t going to over power you.
If they’re misbehaving at school to the detriment of others, then they should be isolated from the other students until they behave, or transferred to a behavioral school.
Most importantly, alongside of all of this, a child needs a happy home life and therapy/counselling if appropriate. It always comes down to parents who don’t understand the role of being a parent, and unfortunately it can be tough and it can be cruel, but you need to be cruel to be kind.
Snap_Ride_Strum on
The UK is actively making problems for itself for the future. These kids should be in school come what may, and the majority of SEND pupils – those who do not get anything from mainstream education – should be in their own schools.
happybaby00 on
they should be working, education isnt for everyone, pretty much know what you need by 13 really.
No-Impact1573 on
WfH parents also set a bad example to school children. If they see the parents are in the house for weeks on end, can’t blame them if they want some of that action.
thejackalreborn on
This is such a sad state of affairs – my neighbour growing up refused to go to school and I think her mum ended up being fined? They were already in deep poverty so I’m glad that is no longer seen as a solution.
After a type of kid realises that they can basically do whatever they want it can be really hard to get them to comply. I think this is a very difficult issue to fix
ArriDesto on
Schools aren’t for everyone.
Home study can work.
Most kids like school and interacting with other kids.
But bullying is rife.
Classes tend to teach to the slowest in the class.
Homework would be unnecessary if the teachers didn’t keep endlessly repeating themselves.
Holding back pupils because resources are scarce.
The curriculum not encouraging thought as well as memory.
Stupid and unnecessary rules and regimens interrupting work.
The travesty of school uniforms.
Not streamlining pupils into what they’re good at but making them do every subject so they a) get fed up and stop learning all together and b) they hold others good at that back. ( Sports, woodwork,metal work,maths..).
There’s a lot wrong with schools for some pupils.
I hated school and did everything I could to make it hard for the system making it hard for me.
My daughter loved school, thrived, rose and has worked in education.
One size does not fit all,just most.
Apostastrophe on
I was heavily bullied when I was in school, especially in high school. I became a “school refuser” in my mid third to mid 4th year S3/4 of high school and refused to go to the point where my attendance that year was like 20% at most. I turned up occasionally for tests. They basically told me if I didn’t start coming in they’d have to make me repeat a year and I wouldn’t be allowed to take my standard grades, especially since I was doing 8 which kind of got me to go in finally. I was able to get straight 1s (As) despite that because I feel I probably kept up better on my own time than in the hell on earth that was my school experience.
I sometimes think on top of the bullying it was that the curriculum wasn’t remotely challenging for me and I also felt like I was wasting my time and at home I could pursue my own interests better and add additional knowledge without all of the disruptions from other students causing constant trouble.
Disastrous-Drop6338 on
Anecdotally. I had a bad upbringing and was in a subpar environment, maybe contributing to the attitude that caused my school refusal of a couple years (I’ve now just left school with no GCSEs, not the end of the world but I do need to take Maths & English to have a chance at employment, I regret not showing up), but I was also lazy, and surely not every child refusing has abusive parents or experienced bullying at school. There’s no way. Wouldn’t say it’s necessarily the fault of the children and over-permissiveness isn’t great for the child but a good chunk must’ve gamed the system and worn their parents down. That’s sad all around.
Random thought, is the increase of ‘homeschooled’ children comparable to the increase in WFH parents?
Definitely_Human01 on
I’m finding it quite difficult to be sympathetic to a lot of the stories in the article tbh.
Having a tantrum because he doesn’t want to go to school?
Starting a riot because he got bored or didn’t understand???
I can sympathise with the girl and her family since they do seem to be trying to find a solution and are still trying to go to school.
But the boys’ stories seem more like they just don’t want to go and pay attention. It’s especially surprising since they seem perfectly aware of their behaviour but don’t really seem to try or even care.
ImFamousYoghurt on
I was considered to be a school refuser 15 years ago when I stopped going in. I stopped going in because I had numerous mental and physical health conditions that were undiagnosed and I physically could not go in. I collapsed on the way to school a few times because I was so unwell.
Despite me trying my best to go in, I was constantly screamed at by staff for not coming in more, the assumption and attitude that kids who don’t go in aren’t trying is toxic and can lead to the worsening of mental health conditions.
bbyn0money on
Run a nursery, first hand professional opinion is a lot of parents genuinely are too soft and pandering to their children’s demands and hostile to any professional opinions that they perceive are challenging them.
We had a young parent recently, her 4 year old son had never been away from her longer than a couple of hours. Day 1 he tried to break everything, hurt everyone, scream cried. Called mum in to assist. She started shouting at us how we should just let him do what he wants, she took him out and last i heard she was going to home school him.
Had another parent say that her child said another child was mean to him and if it happens again or she sees it she was going to come back and ‘sort the child out’. The children was an autistic 3 year old. I wish these situations were less common then they are.
Capital-Table-366 on
Maybe it’s cos the school systems awful. These comments arguing that it’s basically just “the right thing to do” to send ur kids to school but don’t really explain why.
I had to ditch school cos of many reasons my experience there was horrible. I’m much better for it. There is always college too, which is what I have done. Ur life isn’t ruined if u don’t go to school
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I’d definitely have tried this when I was a kid haha
> Once, children who didn’t turn up at school were dubbed truants, their records were marked and parents were punished. But today, more than a million children and teens are persistently absent. Chloe Combi talks to them and their parents and asks how we got to a place where **nearly 20 per cent of children don’t go to school**
.
Unfortunately, this figure is correct
“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all outta ideas”
I was a school refuser as a child, I kicked, I screamed, my parents had to drag me out the car as I held onto the door. I would show up to school most days red in the face after crying all the way there.
My parents just kept taking me to school, and that was that, eventually I accepted what I could not change and upon reflection as I am now in my mid twenties, I miss my school days very much.
Children can be irrational, they’re governed by a different system of emotion and thought process, and it’s simply down to the parents to just take them to school. Your 9 year old isn’t going to over power you.
If they’re misbehaving at school to the detriment of others, then they should be isolated from the other students until they behave, or transferred to a behavioral school.
Most importantly, alongside of all of this, a child needs a happy home life and therapy/counselling if appropriate. It always comes down to parents who don’t understand the role of being a parent, and unfortunately it can be tough and it can be cruel, but you need to be cruel to be kind.
The UK is actively making problems for itself for the future. These kids should be in school come what may, and the majority of SEND pupils – those who do not get anything from mainstream education – should be in their own schools.
they should be working, education isnt for everyone, pretty much know what you need by 13 really.
WfH parents also set a bad example to school children. If they see the parents are in the house for weeks on end, can’t blame them if they want some of that action.
This is such a sad state of affairs – my neighbour growing up refused to go to school and I think her mum ended up being fined? They were already in deep poverty so I’m glad that is no longer seen as a solution.
After a type of kid realises that they can basically do whatever they want it can be really hard to get them to comply. I think this is a very difficult issue to fix
Schools aren’t for everyone.
Home study can work.
Most kids like school and interacting with other kids.
But bullying is rife.
Classes tend to teach to the slowest in the class.
Homework would be unnecessary if the teachers didn’t keep endlessly repeating themselves.
Holding back pupils because resources are scarce.
The curriculum not encouraging thought as well as memory.
Stupid and unnecessary rules and regimens interrupting work.
The travesty of school uniforms.
Not streamlining pupils into what they’re good at but making them do every subject so they a) get fed up and stop learning all together and b) they hold others good at that back. ( Sports, woodwork,metal work,maths..).
There’s a lot wrong with schools for some pupils.
I hated school and did everything I could to make it hard for the system making it hard for me.
My daughter loved school, thrived, rose and has worked in education.
One size does not fit all,just most.
I was heavily bullied when I was in school, especially in high school. I became a “school refuser” in my mid third to mid 4th year S3/4 of high school and refused to go to the point where my attendance that year was like 20% at most. I turned up occasionally for tests. They basically told me if I didn’t start coming in they’d have to make me repeat a year and I wouldn’t be allowed to take my standard grades, especially since I was doing 8 which kind of got me to go in finally. I was able to get straight 1s (As) despite that because I feel I probably kept up better on my own time than in the hell on earth that was my school experience.
I sometimes think on top of the bullying it was that the curriculum wasn’t remotely challenging for me and I also felt like I was wasting my time and at home I could pursue my own interests better and add additional knowledge without all of the disruptions from other students causing constant trouble.
Anecdotally. I had a bad upbringing and was in a subpar environment, maybe contributing to the attitude that caused my school refusal of a couple years (I’ve now just left school with no GCSEs, not the end of the world but I do need to take Maths & English to have a chance at employment, I regret not showing up), but I was also lazy, and surely not every child refusing has abusive parents or experienced bullying at school. There’s no way. Wouldn’t say it’s necessarily the fault of the children and over-permissiveness isn’t great for the child but a good chunk must’ve gamed the system and worn their parents down. That’s sad all around.
Random thought, is the increase of ‘homeschooled’ children comparable to the increase in WFH parents?
I’m finding it quite difficult to be sympathetic to a lot of the stories in the article tbh.
Having a tantrum because he doesn’t want to go to school?
Starting a riot because he got bored or didn’t understand???
I can sympathise with the girl and her family since they do seem to be trying to find a solution and are still trying to go to school.
But the boys’ stories seem more like they just don’t want to go and pay attention. It’s especially surprising since they seem perfectly aware of their behaviour but don’t really seem to try or even care.
I was considered to be a school refuser 15 years ago when I stopped going in. I stopped going in because I had numerous mental and physical health conditions that were undiagnosed and I physically could not go in. I collapsed on the way to school a few times because I was so unwell.
Despite me trying my best to go in, I was constantly screamed at by staff for not coming in more, the assumption and attitude that kids who don’t go in aren’t trying is toxic and can lead to the worsening of mental health conditions.
Run a nursery, first hand professional opinion is a lot of parents genuinely are too soft and pandering to their children’s demands and hostile to any professional opinions that they perceive are challenging them.
We had a young parent recently, her 4 year old son had never been away from her longer than a couple of hours. Day 1 he tried to break everything, hurt everyone, scream cried. Called mum in to assist. She started shouting at us how we should just let him do what he wants, she took him out and last i heard she was going to home school him.
Had another parent say that her child said another child was mean to him and if it happens again or she sees it she was going to come back and ‘sort the child out’. The children was an autistic 3 year old. I wish these situations were less common then they are.
Maybe it’s cos the school systems awful. These comments arguing that it’s basically just “the right thing to do” to send ur kids to school but don’t really explain why.
I had to ditch school cos of many reasons my experience there was horrible. I’m much better for it. There is always college too, which is what I have done. Ur life isn’t ruined if u don’t go to school