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    L’85% delle donne di Amsterdam evita alcune parti della città per sicurezza

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    2. AgitatedTowel1563 on

      I wonder what has changed in recent years to make this the new norm.

    3. ParticularFix2104 on

      So much for far right, law and order parties like the PVV fixing any of this, how’s that’s blown up government going?

    4. WonderfulxSpirit on

      That’s a pretty significant number, definitely something worth paying attention to.

    5. Desperate_Golf7634 on

      Kinda feels weird hearing stuff like this. I never felt afraid to walk around at night since i was 13, and neither did my parents worry. I wonder how much things have changed in Europe as a whole.

    7. Betonkauwer on

      Please remember surely nothing has changed and it’d be a huge shame if we noticed something.

    8. trmetroidmaniac on

      >Men included, around 70 percent of Amsterdammers have areas they consider dangerous.

      So that would be about 55% of men. While the gender disparity shouldn’t be overlooked, this is a problem affecting everyone.

    9. Maligetzus on

      certain parts of any city have always been avoided everywhere in the world and always will be. it shouldnt be that way, but to which magical part of history are you referring? i am from zagreb, an eastern european capital ranked quite consistently as the safest capital of EU, and certain aprts of the city are to be avoided, and always were to be avoided (looking at you dubrava/pescenica)

    10. NiceSmurph on

      Avoiding certain parts of the city… Does that mean they avoid the infrastructure there (bulidings, streets,…)? Is the infrastrucutre there dangerous?

      Or do they avoid ppl there? Is it ok to avoid the same ppl in other parts of the city? Are we speaking about racism here???

      “City parks were most often mentioned, specifically Vondelpark, Sarphatipark, and Oosterpark. “You have less of an overview there, and there are fewer people around,” one respondent said about going to a park at night. “If something happens, you have less chance of getting to a safe place or of being able to talk to someone. Then I do feel like something could happen.”” – What exactly could happen? Touching a thorny or poisonos plant? Biting dogs? Snakes? Falling into a hole in the ground???

      What is meant by “something”??? Can anybody clarify?

    11. Definitely_Human01 on

      These numbers don’t really mean anything without proper comparators.

      Considering 85% of women and 70% of people feel unsafe, it should be reasonable to assume that means 55% of men feel unsafe too.

      So now we know that both there is a large gender gap where women feel more unsafe than men and that there are areas where the majority of people feel unsafe.

      Next we need to see how that stacks up with other comparable cities, both in and out of the country.

      Without proper comparisons, it feels like the article is less for informing and more for alarming.

      I also don’t think it’s good to jump to conclusions about the cause when the article doesn’t say any itself, nor does it even specify which areas people feel unsafe in.

    12. SlimshameyEU on

      But however direct the Dutch may be, pointing to what has changed is taboo. When once again a woman is harassed, the suspects are simplified to “youths on fatbikes”. National governmental news organisation omits descriptions that regional newspapers do write down. Even though there for sure may be other causes at the same time, that-what-shall-not-be-named is only named by those who have personal security.

    13. potatolulz on

      #*85% of Amsterdam women avoid certain parts of the city for safety*

      ~~De Telegraaf, August 1893~~ Courante uyt Italien, Duytslandt, &c., 1663

    14. cookiesnooper on

      Ask the engineers and the doctors they have welcomed in with big signs to accompany them…oh, wait…

    15. G30fff on

      Wouldn’t this be common in most cities? Are there places where women wouldn’t avoid walking through unlit parks in the middle of the night in the worst part of the city?

    17. fly-guy on

      Nothing new, the mentioned areas are well known places for…. less desirable people to hangout. And it’s not only women, everyone has their thoughts about walking there alone. 

      It’s mainly drugs and everything connected to it, from homeless addicts to youth dealing and everything in between.

    18. Coffspring on

      That seems like bait. Certain countries or cities might be more dangerous now and this wouldn’t be an indicator for it.

      I can talk only for Spain but I assume in ither countries there have been always parts with more criminality that most of the people in the city used to avoid. You’ll be lying to yourselves thinking 20 years ago every street was rainbows and happiness

    19. SuggestionMedical736 on

      No shit, they feel unsafe when they go to areas that are used to sell drugs. Drugs, btw, the stats show that the native population buys in mass, a lot more than immigrant kids. You can’t finance these people and then complain about why they are in your city, making it unsafe.

      Again, people, crime is down countrywide, with a 60% total. The country has never been as safe as it is today.

      Yes, if you go to a specific area where the drug dealers are working in the city with the most tourists who come here because of drugs, I understand you feel unsafe, but nobody is forcing you to do that.

    22. Inside_Ad_7162 on

      Alright, I’ll ask. Which parts & why? Unsafe is a bit open to interpretation. I personally loathe the canals, bloody death traps when you’re wasted foreigner

    23. socratic-meth on

      Doesn’t everyone avoid certain parts of every city? The parts where people go if they want drugs, prostitution, or a fight?

      I know the shitty parts of my city to avoid.

    24. _samux_ on

      > Half of the respondents said they experienced something intimidating or scary on the street, ranging from verbal abuse and catcalling to threats and even physical assault. **Yet 91 percent did not report the incident to the police.**

      well it’s kind of hard to fix things if you don’t report them. the alternative is to have cameras everywhere or a police state with military every 200 meters. is this what you are looking for ? i don’t

    26. Amehoelazeg on

      I understand the focus on women, but honestly to make matters worse, it’s both men and women that don’t feel safe in some parts of Amsterdam. I personally avoid many areas in Nieuw-West too especially at night

    27. iknighty on

      How does this compare to previous years? Cities have always had dangerous parts.

    28. Much_Guava_1396 on

      Here in Brussels, cops avoid certain parts of the city for safety. But I can’t say why because I’ll get in trouble.

    29. Quintus_Cicero on

      That doesn’t mean anything. There are people in my city who avoid where I live despite there being no higher criminality for the common man.

      But since there is a mystical reputation among my fellow inhabitants and a few isolated cases which get attention from the medias, people are afraid of the area.

    30. protoctopus on

      That would be probably true in any city, at any moment of history.

    31. dani3po on

      I live in one of the safest cities in Europe, and I also avoid going to certain neighborhoods. But this isn’t something new; it’s been this way ever since I came to live here.

    32. LateNightDrama on

      No wonder people lean towards right wing when they are tired of this one-sided tolerance that happens in their country. Wishing all the best to the Dutch people

    34. bender__futurama on

      I as a man avoid the whole city of Amsterdam. That is the embarrassment of Europe.

    37. Minkgyee on

      Feel unsafe or are unsafe? There’s a difference. Every city (even Vienna, where I live) has some areas I’d be careful about. But I wouldn’t call it a crisis.

    38. TheGaelicPrince on

      Amsterdam was such a beautiful place when I visited it.

    39. Interesting_Loquat90 on

      I am a large male over 185cm and I avoid parts of Amsterdam (and my current city of FFM) for safety.

    41. _Djkh_ on

      50 percent of the population of Amsterdam didn’t live there 10 years ago.

      Amsterdam has completely been transformed during my lifetime and is now unrecognisable.

    42. pytonhayes on

      That’s so sad but honestly not surprising… no one should have to map their day around “safe zones” We deserve to just exist anywhere without fear

    43. gotterooi on

      Well, you haven’t been there in the 80s/90s if you can single out certain streets. 

      So basically nothing changed.  Such a shame. 

    45. Feeling-Attention43 on

      Cause they’re obviously Nazis, right reddit? lol

    46. Prodiq on

      On another news, liberals of Europe just announced that 85% of women in Amsterdam are racist.

      /s obviously

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