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    Uno su cinque bambini in Irlanda è in sovrappeso o obeso, raddoppia il tasso mondiale

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    1. Low-Fuel-674 on

      A lot of people can’t or won’t cook. It’s just chips, nuggets and pizza everyday. Until that changes we are stuck

    3. MarkZuckerbergsPerm on

      Is it such a surprise when the most beloved dishes in this country are petrol station chicken fillet rolls, cheese and onion taytos, and trash candy? Also look at the children’s menu in every single irish restaurant: sausages and mash, burgers, or chicken nuggets. It’s bad.

    4. SnooChickens1534 on

      There’s a Tesco express in an estate near me and the amount of junk I see kids buying when i go there is unreal .

    5. ins3ct_luvr on

      a lot of people here being a bit holier than thou… anyway a lot of kids in ireland are fat due to parents struggling to afford healthy groceries, no time to cook for them, money for gas/electricity bill, no time for a happy family walk in the countryside.

      i’v worked with kids from all over dublin, & the obese kids were always coming from working class areas. same with the very underweight kids. all this ‘their parents have no self control!! you have never struggled a day in your life. defo not while raising kids.

      being a healthy weight has become a privalege linked to wealth… lets Stop with the whole ‘tsk tsk gluttony is a sin!’ and acctually use our brains.

      i emigrated & my grocery bill here is 1/4 what it used to be. & i just get very average stuff from lidl. i had sm friends in college becoming over or under weight from just living on pot noodles, biscuits, coffee. bcs they were hungry and cldnt afford proper food. & between full time studies & a job & a cost of living crisis, no time to cook, not enough money to pay a gas bill

    6. HarvestMourn on

      I find that the general understanding of portion sizes are non-existent here. 
      Sure there are plenty that feed their children a suboptimal diet. 

      But barely anyone knows what a plate is supposed to look like for maintaining a healthy weight. You can eat all the veg and meat and spuds and still gain weight by eating way too much. It’s often well-intentioned to pile a good helping onto a large plate for dinner. 

      There is shame instilled in people and kids to clear their plates, mixed families with age groups are serving very similar sizes to everybody. A growing teenage boy has different energy needs compared to a 10 year old girl. 
      While nutritionally shit, pizza doesn’t make you gain weight if you eat two slices instead of the whole thing. But the whole pizza is seen as one portion by many. 

    8. sureyouknowurself on

      Wonder what the number for adults is and what this means for the number of future obese adults.

      Massive strain on the health system.

    9. halfchthonic on

      i’m sure the frozen food diet is partially to blame here but let’s be honest, there are a lot of families who do make “home cooked” food that they’re convinced is healthy simply because it’s a dinner staple. also add to this the people who think dolmio sauces make for “home cooked” food. those things usually exceed your daily recommended sugar intake. and it’s not even dessert!

    10. DisEndThat on

      Its no surprise and been pointed out many times, but its all hidden beneath a Barry-beard, double chin or sweaters. Another point would be the massive percentage of people that can’t cook basics. It’s a generational thing and yes it does come with the fact we have to work more and well weather doesnt really get better either so there’s only so much to do because in fairness… when possible people do try and be active.

    12. japakapalapa on

      I was in our small Tesco Express. Mom picked some frozen pizza and the kid was pleading actual food instead. I felt bad for the little girl, mommy was being a lazy cunt.
      It took me a while to realize that cats like to have food served to them because it tells them they are being loved. Is junk fast food in the oven every day a sign of care and affection?

    13. enflame99 on

      One of if not the biggest shock of my adult life is living in a house share and realising that like none can cook bar me in the house share. Like I can just whip something up simply out of the fridge. The others are having zero vegetables and see dolmio as cooking.

    14. HomoCarnula on

      When I moved to Ireland, I was shocked (well, quite surprised) when I ordered a lasagna in a restaurant and the waitress was like “do you want sweet potato chips or regular ones with that?”

      I thought it was some kind of upselling, but they were just included 🤨 and I sat there thinking why on earth a lasagna would have chips included. A small salad, sure, why not, but fat salt carbs? (Don’t get me wrong, love me some good crispy chips)

      Portion sizes are usually on a level that I’d take stuff home, or leave stuff over (and feel shitty about it).

      When I worked in office, people would eat a “healthy” tuna wrap with extra cheese, then a bag of crisps, THEN some chocolate or whatever as dessert, etc.

      And that trickles down. The first time seeing a kid in a stroller with a little bag of crisps had me confused, then I noticed it more regularly. Crisps, biscuits, whatever.

      The meal deals that would be bought by bigger families (number of people oO) are big pizza, bag of chips and then some because you can split it. Fruit are crazy expensive, fresh veggies also (compared to mainland Europe).

      Somebody brought up air fryer. Huge fan of that, have one myself, but to buy a family sized one you’d have to upfront quite some money, too.

      For meal planning + batch cooking you need a good sizable freezer (because pizza just doesn’t take as much space as portioned meal prep batches), and time, and again upfront money. (And mental energy. I am living alone, I work from home, I should have all the time to batch cook, but … Life is draining 😬🤨)

      All in all, it’s a combination of learned, witnessed and accessible food + fronting costs. (And maybe still a lingering generational trauma from the famine as in “hungry is always bad”, and keeping kids “quiet” when shopping etc).

      “The kids should do more sports” – uh, difficult one. Organized sports cost money (gear, clothes, membership, access) and time (driving, staying if needed, potentially being pushed to do extra stuff as a parent which if there’s also extra stuff from the school, + jobs + commute +++ …a parent also needs time to exist). And I as a kid was not sporty (but not obese) and my potential love for sports was killed by my sports teachers who loved to call me lazy, that I don’t try hard enough, that my peers are so much better. (Turned out, I am not a runner or gymnast or volleyball player. Learned to love lifting and understanding that sports is not punishment and that I am not a forever loser IN MY 30s.)

      And the cost of obesity does not show immediately. I once was 100kg (and that scale was on a carpet, and I stepped on it thrice because I did not want to believe that I was OVER 100kg). I didn’t feel ‘bad’ at the time. I only realized how it messed with me, once I lost 40kg. Because it was my ‘normal’ 🤷‍♀️

      Do parents need to do something there? Yes. Are there many barriers (money, time, energy, cultural stuff, “can you not have your kid screaming in the sweets isle?”, “Can you just forget how YOU grew up, what you learned as a child?”). Also yes.

      (And that slimming world shite etc does not help, it’s very restricted eating, and you don’t actually learn sustainable habits, you learn to follow a plan. So what if the plan and the access to the community that holds you accountable… stops?)

      We love to bash parents. And I do agree that there are adjustments that seem sensible and easy. But I would be speaking from a place of MY experience, of my time, money and energy, of how where I was raised etc. And even then… I could have had a batch cooked nice vegetable stew yesterday. Had a pizza instead because the world was shite yesterday 🤷‍♀️

    15. Shhhh_Peaceful on

      In my conversations with people, most don’t know a single thing about nutrition. One of my mates lost almost 10kg simply by eliminating sweet drinks from his diet — he was chugging two bottles of apple juice every day and was convinced that it was healthy because apples are healthy!

      Also pardon me for being blunt, but I call bullshit on comments about healthy groceries being unaffordable. They are affordable, and healthy meals don’t require lots of time and energy to cook. Even if someone can’t be bothered to peel vegetables themselves, most supermarkets sell bags of frozen veg that are very cheap and a convenient way to get a healthy amount of dietary fibre. As an example, some fried turkey mince and stir fry veg with a splash of soy sauce over half a bowl of rice is infinitely healthier than a frozen pizza, and takes the same amount of time to cook. Something like coleslaw literally requires only dirt cheap ingredients (cabbage and carrots), you can use low cal mayo to make it healthier too. Get cheap/tough cuts of meat and use a pressure cooker to cook them to perfection in 30 minutes… Even if someone can’t afford meat at all, which I find very hard to believe, beans and rice are complete in terms of essential amino acids, add some garden salad on the side (sliced tomatoes and cucumbers with a splash of oil) and you’re good to go. You can introduce lots of variety into similar meals just by using different spices, but don’t buy those small overpriced jars from Tesco, go to an Indian grocer and buy large bags of the same spices for less. Spices last a long time, so you would only need to restock your spice shelf once a year. 

      But of course all those things are only relevant when someone wants to eat a healthy diet. As the old saying goes, those who want, find a way; those who don’t, find excuses. 

    16. Suspicious-Solid8473 on

      There has to be a correlation between obesity and the poverty line, eating beige food is the most affordable option for a lot of parents I’m afraid.

    17. stbrigidiscross on

      I know there’s lots of factors but on the education front while the information is out there I’m not sure it’s reaching the people who need it most. For example at the 3 month check with the public health nurse for my baby I was given a QR code to sign up for a webinar about healthy foods for weaning. The webinars are run once a month and you have to sign up yourself and of course be available at that one hour and a half. I haven’t done it yet but I expect most of the attendees will, like me, be people who are just interested and engaged parents whose children would be well fed anyway. Also there was a post on here recently from someone who is in an area where the 3 month check has been suspended due to a shortage of public health nurses, in those areas people probably aren’t even being told about these webinars.

    18. RabbitOld5783 on

      In Ireland we have very little supports for picky eaters and very little education on nutrition or even any of this when it comes to feeding your children. Also school dinners are relatively new here and I’ve heard such negative things about it. Japan for example they are taught nutrition from a very young age and they eat really well.

    19. EcstaticYesterday605 on

      Lot of parents are fucking huge and and teach their bad habbits to the kids. This is why there’s a problem.

    20. DeviousPelican on

      Someone in the med field can probably answer this; do kids exhibit the same kind of variation in shapes and sizes that adults do, where BMI becomes less dependable?

      I’m overweight per BMI but that’s just a function of going to the gym and exercising. A lot of my Irish mates in general are fit but just built a bit denser/thicker than other nationalities. Could that explain any of this?

    22. Tom-Crean on

      We must destroy American fast food institutions. By violent means, let’s go brothers

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