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    1. CubeOfDestiny on

      mate, this is not europe being exceptional, this is us being a hellhole, also i think there are a lot of better ways of showing how cool europe is, than “hey we don’t kill each other as much as fucking usa”

    2. readilyunavailable on

      And notice how the countries were gun ownership is widespread like Switzerland and Finland, the stats barely differ from other European countries, if at all.

      Makes ya think about stuff and… things.

    3. Interesting… Almost all New England states (New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, and Massachusetts) have rates comparable to most of Europe. The only odd one out in that list is Idaho.

      On the European side, two of the three Baltic states (Lithuania and Latvia) make the exception.

    4. Intellectual_Wafer on

      Europe is a pathetic, impotent, disparate mess. We are fucked, just in a different way than the USA.

    5. popetsville on

      Not really. Europe’s lower homicide rates aren’t usually framed as “European exceptionalism” in the way “American exceptionalism” is often talked about because the difference mostly comes from structural and policy choices rather than a sense of Europe being unique or special. Not to say that it’s not a good thing, but to use “European exceptionalism” isn’t really the best way of describing it

    6. Miserable-Ad-7947 on

      Yes, but 2020 is the worst year to show that, most of europeans were confined while the Apes in charge of the US did nothing, so everyone was outside, (with exceptions in some states / cities with normal people in charge)

      Another dataset, with several years to compare :

      [https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/homicide-rate-unodc?tab=line&time=earliest..2024&country=USA~OWID_WRL~CAN~JPN~KOR~IND~UNM49_NAF~South-Eastern+Asia+%28UN%29&mapSelect=~USA](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/homicide-rate-unodc?tab=line&time=earliest..2024&country=USA~OWID_WRL~CAN~JPN~KOR~IND~UNM49_NAF~South-Eastern+Asia+%28UN%29&mapSelect=~USA)

    7. where_money on

      I tried to investigate a little bit which indicator correlates with the murder rate in individual US states, and the result was … very racist.

    8. dowdymeatballs on

      Homicide rates in Canada by province and territory for 2024, listed in ascending order (per 100,000 people):

      | Province/Territory | Homicide Rate (per 100,000) |
      |—————————-|—————————–|
      | Prince Edward Island | 0.63 |
      | Newfoundland and Labrador | 1.50 |
      | Nova Scotia | 1.45 |
      | Quebec | 1.10 |
      | Ontario | 1.75 |
      | British Columbia | 2.30 |
      | Alberta | 2.55 |
      | New Brunswick | 2.60 |
      | Yukon | 9.52 |
      | Northwest Territories | 13.33 |
      | Nunavut | 5.13 |
      | Saskatchewan | 5.24 |
      | Manitoba | 6.29 |

      The national average for Canada in 2024 was 1.91 homicides per 100,000 people, down slightly from 1.99 in 2023.

    9. To give a bit more contrast, Idaho and New Hampshire are the same color as France. It looks lighter but that’s just an optical effect.

    10. aliquise on

      It’s also higher in Canada, Australia and New Zeeland than in Europe.

      So … How do we explain that?

      Could also take a look at Africa, Islamic countries, the middle-east, South and Latin America and Asia.

      Europe isn’t preserved. Europe is destroyed. It would had been good if it was preserved but clearly it wasn’t.

      Europe could had been better than what it is.

    11. Top-Double-7906 on

      As a Latvian, It is so strange for me, to see this statistics.
      Because I feel that our country is very safe, even at nights I can walk everywhere.

    12. This sub: Don’t compare the continent to states! Don’t compare countries to states! (GDP discussions with California and Texas)

      Also, this sub: Look at how great we are compared to states. Don’t include other countries. Don’t add context.

      Also, this post comments: *severe racism*

    13. Dear-Leopard-590 on

      And to think that I had an american colleague who, for a trade fair event, asked me if it was safe to walk around Italy…

    14. anarchy-NOW on

      We should be the opposite of exceptionalist. We are not an exception; we are just what happens when societies are well-run. We’re not different in that regard from Canada, Australia or New Zealand. Asian countries like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have lots of similarities with us in terms of just doing things right. I don’t want to be an exception, I want everyone in the world to enjoy the good things we do here, and I think it is perfectly possible.

      Let’s keep ourselves different from the country that ended its democracy, please.

    15. TheoryOfDevolution on

      Why the comparison to the USA? The USA is not a European country. We shouldn’t be comparing our best to their worst to make ourselves seem better. This is the same folly that Canadians fall into.

    16. Far_Excitement4103 on

      I thought Latvia and Lithuania felt safe when I visited in the summer lol

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