I feel like this country has more in common with India than it likes to admit with how our class system mirrors their caste system
Emotional-Ebb8321 on
As someone who was privately educated (I was a clever kid, and won a scholarship), I had a front row seat to see that it has far less to do with which school you went to and far more to do with social connections. By coincidence, the people with social connections that matter tend to go to these schools. But the actual advantages aren’t gained as a result of the school, but through family connections.
Craft_on_draft on
Including jobs at the Guardian. The Guardian has an overwhelming number of privately and Oxbridge educated writers.
RutabagaElegant3215 on
It is not just the school, it’s more about the parents and connections. It’s a new era of nepotism.
I know parents who are doctors letting their teenage children help in their practices to help them setting foot in the industry early. And it’s been known for a long time a common practice in business or politics, that parents help their children in building connections and gaining experience. It’s more about who you know, who your parents are, while which school you attend will be the last factor.
heppyheppykat on
I went to state school but went to oxbridge. My parents studied music at university but experienced upwards mobility. They were children of state school teachers and supermarket staff, who themselves were children of miners and rail workers.
I am the first generation to actually have gone backwards in class mobility in my family. It’s embarrassing. But while my dad owned his first flat at 24, I am a live in nanny.
I don’t believe in upwards class mobility. The upwards mobility in my family was incremental, none of us will ever be rich. We never have been. Traced to the 16th century my mums family were working in a mill they rented in the feudal system.
To be one of the upper class you need generational wealth, since that comes with connections. You need private schooling, which comes with connections.
You need to look the part, too. Speak the part.
It’s exhausting.
concretepigeon on
Let’s see a comparison of grew up in London vs the regions.
Horror_Extension4355 on
But but but three of our office juniors came through our high profile social mobility scheme. Surely that is enough! lol.
Cultural_Tank_6947 on
But the VAT on school fees was going to fix things? Wasn’t it?
And yes I’m being a bit facetious, it’s only been in place for less than one school year.
The elite will always elite. Till we have the concept of financial value, it will continue to do so.
Original_Candle9586 on
The article says 62% of senior judges are privately educated,🤣 so where were the other 38% of senior judges educated then? Which comprehensive schools did they go to?
The article, while making a really obvious point, then tries to fudge it with bullshit statistics
pajamakitten on
They also have a lot more confidence than kids from state schools in professional environments. I have noticed that private school alumni just ten to fit in better in professional environments, as if they have been coached on how to talk the talk. It makes interviews and good first impression a lot easier when you have spent years effectively being coached into how to succeed in the workforce.
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I feel like this country has more in common with India than it likes to admit with how our class system mirrors their caste system
As someone who was privately educated (I was a clever kid, and won a scholarship), I had a front row seat to see that it has far less to do with which school you went to and far more to do with social connections. By coincidence, the people with social connections that matter tend to go to these schools. But the actual advantages aren’t gained as a result of the school, but through family connections.
Including jobs at the Guardian. The Guardian has an overwhelming number of privately and Oxbridge educated writers.
It is not just the school, it’s more about the parents and connections. It’s a new era of nepotism.
I know parents who are doctors letting their teenage children help in their practices to help them setting foot in the industry early. And it’s been known for a long time a common practice in business or politics, that parents help their children in building connections and gaining experience. It’s more about who you know, who your parents are, while which school you attend will be the last factor.
I went to state school but went to oxbridge. My parents studied music at university but experienced upwards mobility. They were children of state school teachers and supermarket staff, who themselves were children of miners and rail workers.
I am the first generation to actually have gone backwards in class mobility in my family. It’s embarrassing. But while my dad owned his first flat at 24, I am a live in nanny.
I don’t believe in upwards class mobility. The upwards mobility in my family was incremental, none of us will ever be rich. We never have been. Traced to the 16th century my mums family were working in a mill they rented in the feudal system.
To be one of the upper class you need generational wealth, since that comes with connections. You need private schooling, which comes with connections.
You need to look the part, too. Speak the part.
It’s exhausting.
Let’s see a comparison of grew up in London vs the regions.
But but but three of our office juniors came through our high profile social mobility scheme. Surely that is enough! lol.
But the VAT on school fees was going to fix things? Wasn’t it?
And yes I’m being a bit facetious, it’s only been in place for less than one school year.
The elite will always elite. Till we have the concept of financial value, it will continue to do so.
The article says 62% of senior judges are privately educated,🤣 so where were the other 38% of senior judges educated then? Which comprehensive schools did they go to?
The article, while making a really obvious point, then tries to fudge it with bullshit statistics
They also have a lot more confidence than kids from state schools in professional environments. I have noticed that private school alumni just ten to fit in better in professional environments, as if they have been coached on how to talk the talk. It makes interviews and good first impression a lot easier when you have spent years effectively being coached into how to succeed in the workforce.