Sono curioso di questo dal punto di vista canadese. Crescere un decennio prima di Internet francese era più obbligatorio di quanto non lo sia oggi, quindi ne abbiamo avuto alcuni anni anche nella mia provincia di Alberta che è molto lontana in Occidente. Ciò che era curioso era che per lo più ci è stato solo detto che il francese è la lingua del Quebec, quindi dobbiamo conoscerne un po ‘, che non si è seduto bene con nessuno di noi. Hanno anche usato questi video di un clown dall’aspetto depresso di nome Sol che non ha aiutato molto. Il personaggio di Bonhomme de Neige del Carnevale invernale del Quebec era piuttosto inquietante anche per noi e a nessuno di noi piaceva l’idea di una cultura così fissata dalla neve perché ne avevamo sicuramente abbastanza.
Non è stato fino a molto tempo dopo (intorno al liceo) quando non era più obbligatorio che ci siamo resi conto che avrebbe potuto prestare maggiore attenzione perché è una delle lingue più utili da sapere e legate ad altri come lo spagnolo.
Lo svedese non è chiaramente vicino al francese in termini di utilità, ma non è nemmeno all’estremo (cioè un isolato di linguaggio completo), quindi gli insegnanti hanno ancora un po ‘con cui lavorare qui. Quindi sono curioso di sapere se il curriculum cerca di migliorare almeno l’esperienza jazzing degli studenti con il modo in cui almeno è una delle poche lingue strettamente correlate che hai quasi parlato gratuitamente in paesi con economie ben sviluppate (e tedesco e olandese diventano un po ‘più facili da sempre.
Mandatory Swedish in schools – how is it taught now compared to before?
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di Dhghomon
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It’s like French in Canada if you live in any other state than Quebec.
It’s mandatory from sixth, seventh, eight, ninght grades and then in vocational or upper secondary school and then few courses in university or university of applied sciences.
Most people don’t learn even conversational Swedish. Those that do most likely lose it after school is done. Only reason it’s at least somewhat maintained is because all public jobs require it and only reason why it’s staying like that is because RKP(Swedish peoples party) is good 5-10 votes for the government coalition and that’s their only requirement to join the coalition so they’re always in. Last time they weren’t the government coalition dropped mandatory exams from the upper secondary school and it was dramatic for RKP.
I always hated the forced study of Swedish in school. Finland was under Swedish rule for hundreds of years and still part of our population speaks Swedish as their mother tongue. Forced Swedish felt like a reminder of those times under Swedish rule. I personally despised the whole idea of learning that language. It was like forced Russian for countries under Soviet rule. I have nothing against Sweden and our countries are like siblings. When things get tough, we stand by each other.
I don’t mind. For me knowing Swedish has been very useful.
When I went to school in the nineties Swedish was universally despised and ridiculed by the students. This was Western Finland, in a completely Finnish speaking small town. I was always the outlier. Languages always came to me easily in school and I found Swedish rather easy to pick up. I have benefited from it in life, even living in Sweden in the 2010s for a time. I have many positive things to say about the country and the people.
As to my thoughts on teaching Swedish in school, it never hurts to know more languages. Sweden is a good neighbour of ours, as are the other Nordics. Historically the period of Swedish rule made us a culturally Nordic country, so the historical ties are definitely there. There’s also a practical angle, knowing Swedish helps you ease into the Scandinavian job market (though these are of course countries with excellent English proficiency too). This matters at least somewhat in the short run, as the Finnish economy is currently doing very badly and many of us might soon have to take a look at other countries job and career wise.
All that said, it is truly a minority language in Finland, only five percent of us are Swedish first language speakers (comparing our two countries, a quick Google search tells me around 20 % of Canadians have French as their first language). It is entirely possible to go your whole life without ever having to use it, if you never happen to enter any Swedish speaking areas. This and the language being a mandatory subject creates resistance among Finnish speaking students, leading to poor motivation and dismal learning results: I can almost guarantee that the average Finnish speaking Finn won’t be able to carry a conversation of any complexity in Swedish despite studying it for many years in school.
This situation has slowly led me to consider that maybe an optional third mandatory language (in addition to Finnish and English) would be a better choice for the school of today. We are short on German, French and Spanish speakers already, for example. Naturally Swedish could be one of the options.
I think it should be abolished. I didn’t object studying, as languages come easily to me, but I have gone through life having absolutely no use for it, despite having been in official or international jobs. So i’ve had to come to a conclusion that it being mamdatory was a scam. And I consider it robbing entire generations of the chance of learning some actually useful language.
I grew up in the 90s/00s in an area where there were close no one who natively spoke swedish. Hence in classes kids had hard time understanding why we were learning swedish. It was really hard for some. It was a lot of work for me too and I was super excited when I got Magna Cum Laude finally from B-level swedish (which in hindsight still doesnt mean I would know shit 🤣). It was 6 years if studying.
Later in life I moved to the capital area where there are more people with swedish as their first language, which helped understand the commection, even though we would 100% of time speak finnish.