After that pilot went to jail since he was „responsible“
WasteWing5137 on
Looks romantic
J-96788-EU on
Turkey, brave member of NATO.
CRE178 on
The best Russian pilots are warm Russian pilots.
GlobalFriendship5855 on
The MIG 31s in Estonia also had air to ground armaments (pls correct me if I’m wrong) so they presented a clear threat. I don’t know how you cannot shoot at least 1 of them down, which would’ve probably been enough. Otherwise this will just happen over and over again.
Also, unlike the incident in Turkey, those were 3 jets and not just 1, so the likelihood that is was just pilot error or a faulty navigation system ( which to be fair definitely could happen) is near 0.
Edit: spelling
Various_Tadpole7460 on
Roughly a year later, a turkish cop assassinated the russian ambassador over the russian aerial campaign over Aleppo.
And 6 months later, Erdogan begged Putin for forgiveness, had the pilots arrested, called them traitors and framed them as part fo the Gülen movement. After Russia started to lift the sanctions against Turkey, Erdogan announced to buy Russian AA systems instead of Amercian ones.
asir100 on
Yet I remember how everyone condemned Turkey for this, how time changes.
The only reasonable response. The only response these animals will understand
coprosperityglobal on
EU doesn’t need to show its defence capability or weakness point now. It is just what Russia would like to know
Poleth87 on
The airplane never violated any airspace again.
Battlefleet_Sol on
There are still people spreading false information, so let’s set the record straight. First of all, after this incident, Turkish pilots were not arrested; their identities were kept secret for their own safety. There is no evidence that they were detained. Regarding the issue of Erdoğan apologizing: after the incident, Europe left Turkey isolated and did not offer strong support, since Merkel’s goal was to appease Russia. Europe was quite passive, and after the Karlov assassination, Erdoğan expressed regret over the incident in order to ease relations, but he did not officially apologize.
After this incident, not a single Russian aircraft violated Turkey’s borders again, because they understood what would happen to them. Let’s not forget that if Europe and the United States had not left Turkey isolated, Turkey would neither have bought the S-400s from Russia nor developed such close ties with Moscow.
Atactos on
Turkish airplanes violate Greek airspace every day, tsilax mate
maddog2271 on
I assume that Finland (for one example) doesnt react because to turn on the radar and missile systems would be to allow the russians to start figuring out where they are. Finland makes a business of not overreacting to this stuff. Russian aircraft routinely violate the airspace so if every time the equipment launches into action they will get critical data. and if they know where the equipment is deployed it will make it easier for them when a war would come. I would imagine that a lot of countries do this to maintain ambiguity about their capacity. a country like Turkey, not to even talk about the US, could far more easily just shoot them down without consequences. The Baltic states have a lot less luxury in this regard.
sant2060 on
And they never violated Turkish airspace again.
whatissmm on
People saying Erdogan apologized to Putin and blah blah blah. But there is something they WANT to forget, Relations between Turkey and Russia after the RU airfract was shot down and after the murder of russian ambassador in Ankara were so tense, and guess fucking what? NATO countries backed down and distanced themselves from Turkey, a loyal and a firm member of the alliance. European powers went as far as to call for “de-escalation” between parties like there is a beef between two countries somewhere in Southeast Asia.
Turkey took it’s lessons here but so did Russia, it never violated Turkish airspace ever since.
Perfecto_Doctore on
Balls. Leaders used to have those.
Rude_Asparagus_382 on
Russia hides nuclear weapons and threatens to use them but takes aggressive actions against no hostile forces and is trying to bait NATO INTO A FIGHT WHICH PUTINS KNOWS HE’LL LOSE BUT IT’LL SOUND BETTER THEN GETTING SMOKED BY UKRAINE 🇺🇦
Alexikik on
And this is exactly what Russia wants
Smoothie_3D on
I mean… it’s called restricted for a reason.
Jey3349 on
Estonia should have done the same.
Mundane_Opening3831 on
The right of any sovereign nation. Especially if the violator is a known aggressor
ElPeloPolla on
i know how it looks like, but EU is not stupod and its playing its cards extremely well.
Russia had planes fly over the finish sea, if they were shut down he would claim that it was a mistake and that EU is escalating and its proof of war between EU and Russia, as Putin is working really hard to make the war with Ukraine to look like its a war against EU.
Instead, EU intercepted them and followed them until they left EU territory, and Putin only managed to make EU send more money to Ukraine. Putin does not get the campaign it wants, and makes it even worse for itself in the real battlegrounds of Ukraine
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Beautiful
It’s art.
After that pilot went to jail since he was „responsible“
Looks romantic
Turkey, brave member of NATO.
The best Russian pilots are warm Russian pilots.
The MIG 31s in Estonia also had air to ground armaments (pls correct me if I’m wrong) so they presented a clear threat. I don’t know how you cannot shoot at least 1 of them down, which would’ve probably been enough. Otherwise this will just happen over and over again.
Also, unlike the incident in Turkey, those were 3 jets and not just 1, so the likelihood that is was just pilot error or a faulty navigation system ( which to be fair definitely could happen) is near 0.
Edit: spelling
Roughly a year later, a turkish cop assassinated the russian ambassador over the russian aerial campaign over Aleppo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Andrei_Karlov
Overall, an intense year.
More info?
And 6 months later, Erdogan begged Putin for forgiveness, had the pilots arrested, called them traitors and framed them as part fo the Gülen movement. After Russia started to lift the sanctions against Turkey, Erdogan announced to buy Russian AA systems instead of Amercian ones.
Yet I remember how everyone condemned Turkey for this, how time changes.
[More info. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown)
Ooo! Can we do that again?
The only reasonable response. The only response these animals will understand
EU doesn’t need to show its defence capability or weakness point now. It is just what Russia would like to know
The airplane never violated any airspace again.
There are still people spreading false information, so let’s set the record straight. First of all, after this incident, Turkish pilots were not arrested; their identities were kept secret for their own safety. There is no evidence that they were detained. Regarding the issue of Erdoğan apologizing: after the incident, Europe left Turkey isolated and did not offer strong support, since Merkel’s goal was to appease Russia. Europe was quite passive, and after the Karlov assassination, Erdoğan expressed regret over the incident in order to ease relations, but he did not officially apologize.
After this incident, not a single Russian aircraft violated Turkey’s borders again, because they understood what would happen to them. Let’s not forget that if Europe and the United States had not left Turkey isolated, Turkey would neither have bought the S-400s from Russia nor developed such close ties with Moscow.
Turkish airplanes violate Greek airspace every day, tsilax mate
I assume that Finland (for one example) doesnt react because to turn on the radar and missile systems would be to allow the russians to start figuring out where they are. Finland makes a business of not overreacting to this stuff. Russian aircraft routinely violate the airspace so if every time the equipment launches into action they will get critical data. and if they know where the equipment is deployed it will make it easier for them when a war would come. I would imagine that a lot of countries do this to maintain ambiguity about their capacity. a country like Turkey, not to even talk about the US, could far more easily just shoot them down without consequences. The Baltic states have a lot less luxury in this regard.
And they never violated Turkish airspace again.
People saying Erdogan apologized to Putin and blah blah blah. But there is something they WANT to forget, Relations between Turkey and Russia after the RU airfract was shot down and after the murder of russian ambassador in Ankara were so tense, and guess fucking what? NATO countries backed down and distanced themselves from Turkey, a loyal and a firm member of the alliance. European powers went as far as to call for “de-escalation” between parties like there is a beef between two countries somewhere in Southeast Asia.
Turkey took it’s lessons here but so did Russia, it never violated Turkish airspace ever since.
Balls. Leaders used to have those.
Russia hides nuclear weapons and threatens to use them but takes aggressive actions against no hostile forces and is trying to bait NATO INTO A FIGHT WHICH PUTINS KNOWS HE’LL LOSE BUT IT’LL SOUND BETTER THEN GETTING SMOKED BY UKRAINE 🇺🇦
And this is exactly what Russia wants
I mean… it’s called restricted for a reason.
Estonia should have done the same.
The right of any sovereign nation. Especially if the violator is a known aggressor
i know how it looks like, but EU is not stupod and its playing its cards extremely well.
Russia had planes fly over the finish sea, if they were shut down he would claim that it was a mistake and that EU is escalating and its proof of war between EU and Russia, as Putin is working really hard to make the war with Ukraine to look like its a war against EU.
Instead, EU intercepted them and followed them until they left EU territory, and Putin only managed to make EU send more money to Ukraine. Putin does not get the campaign it wants, and makes it even worse for itself in the real battlegrounds of Ukraine
Poland supports this kind of decisions 😉