What are you talking about? Romania / Walachia / Moldavia did not even exist 1185-7.
beorn88 on
Mate, Romanians didnt exsist in the 12 century as a country/nation or whatsoever what about wording. Nothing personal, I like the country and so, but in the middle centuries the vlachs was simply a region where ethic bulgarians were living ( often mixed up with cumans )
AmbitiousBear351 on
Изтрий си акаунта.
Quick_Ad_3367 on
I think it’s true because the Cumans which were the political factor back then had Vlachs in their service though I’m not sure if there was a specific Vlach political entity at that time as a leading force.
chetirski on
In school, they teach us it is entirely a BG thing, so you won’t get much support here.
Nasko1194 on
Also during WWII
simo_rz on
The r-word ppl really think that 100% multi ethnic empires were only with their preferred ethnicity only….if this sub Reddit could research for shit, they would find Romanian Wikipedia and read about the Valacho Bulgarian empire ….. Asenu and Petru lol or even Ioanica Caloian. Ppl here would explode I’m pretty sure
ThracianW on
Not the only collaboration especially in the middle ages but yeah the history of the second bulgarian empire is pretty entangled with the vlachs and cumans.
TrickEntrepreneur169 on
Asen and Petar were undoubtedly local Търново nobles. However, the modern concept of a “nation” didn’t exist in their time. It was not unusual for local nobility to have origins from entirely different ethnic groups. The Asen dynasty was most likely of Cuman descent, but this does not change the fact that the state they founded was Bulgarian.
Over time, some modern Romanian narratives consider the Cumans “Romanians” because they lived on what became Romanian territory, but this is a territorial, not ethnic claim. Also it is another modern misconception that projects present-day national identities onto a period when such concepts did not exist.
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What are you talking about? Romania / Walachia / Moldavia did not even exist 1185-7.
Mate, Romanians didnt exsist in the 12 century as a country/nation or whatsoever what about wording. Nothing personal, I like the country and so, but in the middle centuries the vlachs was simply a region where ethic bulgarians were living ( often mixed up with cumans )
Изтрий си акаунта.
I think it’s true because the Cumans which were the political factor back then had Vlachs in their service though I’m not sure if there was a specific Vlach political entity at that time as a leading force.
In school, they teach us it is entirely a BG thing, so you won’t get much support here.
Also during WWII
The r-word ppl really think that 100% multi ethnic empires were only with their preferred ethnicity only….if this sub Reddit could research for shit, they would find Romanian Wikipedia and read about the Valacho Bulgarian empire ….. Asenu and Petru lol or even Ioanica Caloian. Ppl here would explode I’m pretty sure
Not the only collaboration especially in the middle ages but yeah the history of the second bulgarian empire is pretty entangled with the vlachs and cumans.
Asen and Petar were undoubtedly local Търново nobles. However, the modern concept of a “nation” didn’t exist in their time. It was not unusual for local nobility to have origins from entirely different ethnic groups. The Asen dynasty was most likely of Cuman descent, but this does not change the fact that the state they founded was Bulgarian.
Over time, some modern Romanian narratives consider the Cumans “Romanians” because they lived on what became Romanian territory, but this is a territorial, not ethnic claim. Also it is another modern misconception that projects present-day national identities onto a period when such concepts did not exist.