Even for a politician Burnham is a demented narcissist. I remember him booking a theatre for his “one man shoe” during the party conference & no one turned up.
A professional northerner Oxford graduate.
Very much in the mold of Liz Truss in terms of bulletproof self confidence.
Zavage3 on
People are more likely voting for anyone but starmer, I bet if you added a random name into this poll you’d get a surprising high vote count.
BeardMonk1 on
And then what? Burnham hasn’t said anything about the hot topic issues that will make him any more attractive to people outside of the Labour party membership/faithful. And switching horses will make the party look weaker than it currently appears.
What to Labour hope to gain by deposing Starmer and installing Burnham?
ShambolicPaulThe2nd on
I would love to see him resign his position as mayor and attempt to parachute into a safe seat. Only for Reform to beat him in a by election. I just would love to see the look on his face. I know it’s not likely cos there are obviously still safe labour seats out there. But could you imagine the hilarity.
GianfrancoZoey on
Do people get yet how absurdly unpopular Starmer’s Labour is? Outside of this sub basically no one likes him – he’s driving the country directly towards the hands of the far-right and everyone can see it
And I’m not stupid enough to think Labour doesn’t see it either, they just don’t care. Doesn’t matter to them really, they’ll swan off/back to their post-office corporate lobby positions and leave us with Reform in charge.
CoaxialDrive on
What labour members, me and everyone I know who was one left because Labour is iredeamable at this point in any time between now and the next election.
ThatGuyMaulicious on
Even if he wanted to become leader he’d have to jump through so many hurdles and Starmer would see him miles off and move to suppress him.
lambrequin_mantling on
Burnham had a reasonable but, if I recall correctly, not outstanding track record in government. I don’t recall anything bad when he was Health Secretary.
He actively *chose* to pursue the mayoralty for Greater Manchester which meant leaving the both the Labour opposition front bench and the Commons. In recent years he seems to have carefully curated the appearance of being pretty focused on that role and has *avoided* a lot of broad exposure on the National stage. This reappearance feels a little opportunistic.
Do I think Starmer is doing well? No, not really.
In fairness, there are a *lot* of pretty difficult international headwinds right now, both economically and in global politics and there is equally very little financial wriggle room for Labour to pull rabbits out of hats in domestic policy. We pretty much knew that going into the last general election so none of this should be surprising.
Even allowing for those difficulties, there have been just too many easily avoidable own goals and the Government is just not doing a good job of communicating its policies, direction and objectives.
Badenoch is a joke; an incapable leader of an incapacitated party; a shadow of what the Tories used to be before they collectively eviscerated themselves.
Farage knows that at this point all he has to do is heckle and throw bricks from the sidelines. He’s a disruptor; that’s what he does. He also knows that as long as he keeps pushing at the same old wedge issues around immigration then he will be given air time and will continue to gain traction with parts of the electorate, even if his own tangible policies for government are deeply lacking and what *is* presented is really just bluster or smoke and mirrors and the few things Reform *have* suggested would largely be detrimental to the welfare of their likely voters, if only they could see it, but they are largely blinded by the continuous focus on that oldest of rabble-rousing tricks: creating a common enemy and blaming “outsiders.” Reform’s performance in local government after the local elections is an utter clown show; an omnishambles with all the usual right wing talking points but a failure to deliver workable policies in many, many areas.
Labour have a couple of years in which to first get a grip on their own policies and then deliver some tangible positive outcomes.
The biggest pitfall now will be the sort of in-fighting that has persistently plagued previous governments. It’s both a distraction from real progress and it plays into the narrative their detractors would like to push, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It’s going to be hard graft for two years but they have to do better. Without that, the next GE looks pretty grim.
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My god this country is full of fucking morons.
Even for a politician Burnham is a demented narcissist. I remember him booking a theatre for his “one man shoe” during the party conference & no one turned up.
A professional northerner Oxford graduate.
Very much in the mold of Liz Truss in terms of bulletproof self confidence.
People are more likely voting for anyone but starmer, I bet if you added a random name into this poll you’d get a surprising high vote count.
And then what? Burnham hasn’t said anything about the hot topic issues that will make him any more attractive to people outside of the Labour party membership/faithful. And switching horses will make the party look weaker than it currently appears.
What to Labour hope to gain by deposing Starmer and installing Burnham?
I would love to see him resign his position as mayor and attempt to parachute into a safe seat. Only for Reform to beat him in a by election. I just would love to see the look on his face. I know it’s not likely cos there are obviously still safe labour seats out there. But could you imagine the hilarity.
Do people get yet how absurdly unpopular Starmer’s Labour is? Outside of this sub basically no one likes him – he’s driving the country directly towards the hands of the far-right and everyone can see it
And I’m not stupid enough to think Labour doesn’t see it either, they just don’t care. Doesn’t matter to them really, they’ll swan off/back to their post-office corporate lobby positions and leave us with Reform in charge.
What labour members, me and everyone I know who was one left because Labour is iredeamable at this point in any time between now and the next election.
Even if he wanted to become leader he’d have to jump through so many hurdles and Starmer would see him miles off and move to suppress him.
Burnham had a reasonable but, if I recall correctly, not outstanding track record in government. I don’t recall anything bad when he was Health Secretary.
He actively *chose* to pursue the mayoralty for Greater Manchester which meant leaving the both the Labour opposition front bench and the Commons. In recent years he seems to have carefully curated the appearance of being pretty focused on that role and has *avoided* a lot of broad exposure on the National stage. This reappearance feels a little opportunistic.
Do I think Starmer is doing well? No, not really.
In fairness, there are a *lot* of pretty difficult international headwinds right now, both economically and in global politics and there is equally very little financial wriggle room for Labour to pull rabbits out of hats in domestic policy. We pretty much knew that going into the last general election so none of this should be surprising.
Even allowing for those difficulties, there have been just too many easily avoidable own goals and the Government is just not doing a good job of communicating its policies, direction and objectives.
Badenoch is a joke; an incapable leader of an incapacitated party; a shadow of what the Tories used to be before they collectively eviscerated themselves.
Farage knows that at this point all he has to do is heckle and throw bricks from the sidelines. He’s a disruptor; that’s what he does. He also knows that as long as he keeps pushing at the same old wedge issues around immigration then he will be given air time and will continue to gain traction with parts of the electorate, even if his own tangible policies for government are deeply lacking and what *is* presented is really just bluster or smoke and mirrors and the few things Reform *have* suggested would largely be detrimental to the welfare of their likely voters, if only they could see it, but they are largely blinded by the continuous focus on that oldest of rabble-rousing tricks: creating a common enemy and blaming “outsiders.” Reform’s performance in local government after the local elections is an utter clown show; an omnishambles with all the usual right wing talking points but a failure to deliver workable policies in many, many areas.
Labour have a couple of years in which to first get a grip on their own policies and then deliver some tangible positive outcomes.
The biggest pitfall now will be the sort of in-fighting that has persistently plagued previous governments. It’s both a distraction from real progress and it plays into the narrative their detractors would like to push, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It’s going to be hard graft for two years but they have to do better. Without that, the next GE looks pretty grim.