
Streeting chiama Farage “venditore di olio di serpente” e afferma che Reform UK sarebbe un “disastro” per la politica NHS-UK Live
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/sep/30/labour-conference-starmer-speech-streeting-nhs-reform?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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I don’t know if this is just the media spin on it, but is Farage literally just living rent free in all the Labour front bench’s heads now?
I get they see Reform as the opposition because of their polling. This is reasonable. But every story from the conference has been Farage Farage Farage, and no policy. Again, perhaps this is the media ignoring the boring technicalities of policy for the easy story of politicians bitching at each other like wrestlers backstage, but I’m not seeing Labour’s policy direction, vision, ideas.
He may be right. But you only need to head over to some of the U.K. Doctors Reddit channels to see what the general view of Streeting is.
It’s not positive, most of the points raised are well argued and credible.
He’s just another Politician trying to keep all the plates spinning whilst everyone working burns out.
U have to include the positive. State the negative but also sell a positive vision of multicultural liberal Britain. Remind people that racist polarisation and picking on the desperate isn’t British. If you go full doom monger we will lose to the lying unicorn just like we did with Brexit.
Perfect example of why neoliberal centrism is the worst possible answer to the rise of a reactionary right party
There’s no real material vectors of attack for Labour to take against Reform when their policies are so similar, all they can do is point at them and call them racists/liars which is totally ineffective
For example Streeting can’t fully attack Reform for their NHS privatisation plans considering the path he’s currently taking the health system down. Reform would absolutely be an escalation of the current status quo but structurally it’s the same thing.
Do a better job then. Solve the “migrant crisis” and show some decent economic results and people wont for them.
Labour is not going to win over a single voter or change anybody’s minds with comments like this laying into Reform, it’ll more likely have the opposite effect.
Labour have to present their own vision more clearly, that’s the only way they can win over the people flocking to Reform
He can say whatever he wants. Boats are still pouring in. That’s all the media and voters care about.
Let’s be honest here there all the same, giving reform a chance will just end up being exactly the same as the other two.
He will properly start it being dismantled, while convincing those who will be forced to use the bottom tier of the health system he wants, that it is a good thing. As imperfect as the NHS is, we would look back at now as a golden age compared to what Farage has in mind for it. If he managed to deport as many immigrants, even legal ones, as he hopes them that alone would see things collapse within months.
These tactics didn’t work in America, they won’t work here. They need to address people’s everyday issues, not engage in these type of statements. The people don’t trust them, and they don’t believe them. They need to earn the trust back with results.
Streeting, currently the most despised man amongst those working in the NHS, is a fine one to talk. His failures, like Labour’s as a whole are pushing the country into the hands of Farage and co, and the best way to avoid this disaster would be to step aside entirely and let someone more suitable for the job take over.
I mean, https://www.health.org.uk/publications/labour-s-first-year was published literally days ago and takes a really balanced look at just how badly Streeting is fucking over the NHS. Some key quotes:
> Overall, our analysis shows how far the government is from having
a coherent policy agenda to make their manifesto promises a reality.
Labour has set out a broad vision for the NHS and established an
independent commission on social care. But detail on how change will
happen is lacking and resources to deliver reform are limited.
> The government has boosted spending on health and care – including
investment in new technology. But the NHS’s planned funding growth
is below the long-term average and social care will only have enough
to meet rising demand and costs, leaving little room for improving pay
or services.
> A mix of policies has been proposed that could improve the NHS,
including changes to how NHS funding flows and plans for developing
more integrated services. But much of the detail is yet to be worked
out. And – standing back – the government’s plans for NHS reform
lack a guiding theory for how the NHS should improve.
> The government has chosen to embark on yet another round of NHS
reorganisation, despite saying it did not want one. The decision to
scrap NHS England and restructure integrated care boards (ICBs) will
take several years to deliver, risks distracting leaders from improving
care and is unlikely to deliver meaningful savings.
He may not be wrong, but his boss Starmer is handing many thousands of votes to the far right, privately owned, English Reform company.
Many of their Labour colleagues will be unemployed come next year’s Senedd election unless the Labour Party wakes up!!