In all honesty, I think this can be said about Ukraine as well; they would be a net asset to NATO, without a doubt. More than, say, a country like Hungary.
Since Trump doesn’t want Ukraine in NATO, the EU best make sure Ukraine will join the EU instead, asap.
Europe is now talking about a drone wall, to protect us from Russia’s aggression. Ukraine already *has* that. We need to incorporate them into the West *pronto*. Letting them join the EU is the fastest way to do that.
It will make the whole of Europe more secure.
ahothabeth on
It is also worth noting the size of their army
Army size of NATO members, Top 3,
USA 1,315,600 (Active) 797,200 (Reserve)
Turkey 355,200 (Active) 378,700 (Reserve)
France 202,200 (Active) 38,500 (Reserve)
tree_boom on
I don’t think that would come as surprise to anyone. It might not be the most modern fleet in NATO but it’s certainly one of the largest, and perfectly capable within the theatre they’re expected to operate in. The report apparently has some criticisms, some of which sound legit but amongst which is, according to the article…
> IRSEM explicitly lists two critical gaps in a capacity table: aircraft carriers (with or without catapults) and nuclear-powered submarines or sea-based nuclear strike capability, fields shared only by a handful of nations (United States, France, United Kingdom, Russia, China and India).
Which is a fairly absurd thing to note…but maybe the report doesn’t present it in a negative light and it’s just the articles interpretation
UnMaxDeKEuros on
Well that is if it is not fighting other NATO allies navies
AffectionateField569 on
No doubt, Turkey is a key player within NATO. Yet people are prone to underestimating its military capabilities, despite the fact that it maintains one of the largest standing armies in the alliance and has demonstrated both operational experience and great regional influence.
DefInnit on
Will the Turkish Navy be made available to NATO if there’s a war between Europe and Russia?
Will the Turks neutralize Russian bases and assets around the Black Sea or will they sit on the fence and merely close the Bosphorus?
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[https://turdef.com/article/french-report-turkish-navy-seen-as-a-net-asset-to-nato](https://turdef.com/article/french-report-turkish-navy-seen-as-a-net-asset-to-nato)
In all honesty, I think this can be said about Ukraine as well; they would be a net asset to NATO, without a doubt. More than, say, a country like Hungary.
Since Trump doesn’t want Ukraine in NATO, the EU best make sure Ukraine will join the EU instead, asap.
Europe is now talking about a drone wall, to protect us from Russia’s aggression. Ukraine already *has* that. We need to incorporate them into the West *pronto*. Letting them join the EU is the fastest way to do that.
It will make the whole of Europe more secure.
It is also worth noting the size of their army
Army size of NATO members, Top 3,
USA 1,315,600 (Active) 797,200 (Reserve)
Turkey 355,200 (Active) 378,700 (Reserve)
France 202,200 (Active) 38,500 (Reserve)
I don’t think that would come as surprise to anyone. It might not be the most modern fleet in NATO but it’s certainly one of the largest, and perfectly capable within the theatre they’re expected to operate in. The report apparently has some criticisms, some of which sound legit but amongst which is, according to the article…
> IRSEM explicitly lists two critical gaps in a capacity table: aircraft carriers (with or without catapults) and nuclear-powered submarines or sea-based nuclear strike capability, fields shared only by a handful of nations (United States, France, United Kingdom, Russia, China and India).
Which is a fairly absurd thing to note…but maybe the report doesn’t present it in a negative light and it’s just the articles interpretation
Well that is if it is not fighting other NATO allies navies
No doubt, Turkey is a key player within NATO. Yet people are prone to underestimating its military capabilities, despite the fact that it maintains one of the largest standing armies in the alliance and has demonstrated both operational experience and great regional influence.
Will the Turkish Navy be made available to NATO if there’s a war between Europe and Russia?
Will the Turks neutralize Russian bases and assets around the Black Sea or will they sit on the fence and merely close the Bosphorus?
I think that frigate needs more radars.