Reform for the rental sector is long overdue, particularly private rentals.
Perhaps some landlords may exit the market temporarily. But overall quality and stability of housing will improve. The sold properties could also be later bought by landlords who will actually invest to make them nice to live in.
AnonymousTimewaster on
Great! More supply for the housing market which should temper house prices.
Electricbell20 on
Being a landlord is not a side project. Tenants deserve better.
raven43122 on
As a landlord all be it one that rents to students, if your selling up as you are afraid of renters bill then you shouldn’t be renting in the first place.
Patricia, who has rented out properties since 1986, says by selling the flat she was “able to get out the money” she had put into it.
Lmao yeah no profit to be had she must have put gold taps and marble floors in every year.
BlaziingDemon on
Landlords who are selling now because of these rights are the reason these rights are happening..too many bad landlords that do crappy repair works,let the house fall into disrepair and still charge above going rate for rent are a problem..I’ve always said that rent shouldn’t be higher than a mortgage for that area. End the buy to let schemes and let people have a chance to get onto the property ladder instead of allowing the same fat cat to add another property to the 30+ bad conditions hellholes they already have.
myzuk77 on
Going through the bill myself, I think it is all good changes as long as they ensure that evictions are actually enforced quickly by courts and judges aren’t bias against the property owners.
I wouldn’t risk renting a place out now though, seems like too much of an effort for an individual to go through courts for any eviction. Just sell the place and invest in index funds instead.
insomnimax_99 on
Yeah, I think lots of landlords are doing this.
I’m planning on buying my first flat soon, and I’m seeing lots of places come on the market and prices dropping.
Seems like lots of landlords are selling up, flooding the market, temporarily driving down prices. Which is great for me, but probably not good if you’re a tenant or prospective tenant, because now the rental market is about to get even more competitive – And people like me becoming owners rather than renters won’t compensate for this, because owner occupied properties have higher occupancy rates than rental properties (eg, I’m currently renting a 1 bed flat but planning on buying a 2 bed flat for myself).
eth0izzle on
Whilst I agree with the bill, it’s ultimately going to shaft renters.
It’s going to decrease rental supply, which will mean higher rents. But because it’s no longer profitable to be a small private landlord, most landlords will be huge VCs/investment firms which means more soulless apartment blocks and huge service fees.
przhauukwnbh on
Got evicted via section 21 twice as both landlords had other plans for their property, no clue how anyone could describe that process as traumatic. 12 months notice is a piss take lol
GhostRiders on
Well where I live rental properties have skyrocketed in cost.
The average for a 3 bedroom semi was around £750 per month a few years ago, its now well above £1000 a month as there are so few.
Fact is there will always be people who need to rent for various reasons, all that is happening right now is those who need to rent are getting shafted so whatever the Government is doing not working and is only making life worse for those who do rent.
shadow__boxer on
Unfortunately, however, good a landlord is these blanket changes will simply mean any additional costs are passed to the tenant.
Original_Bad_3416 on
I had a scumlord who was an absolute dick. The whole building was unsafe. Boiler not checked. Single glazed windows. No door entry. No bulbs in the hallway.
They also;
Harassed me in two work places
Turned off the electricity
Entered without permission
Used fear tactics
I’ve lost the will to fight them but I know if they pull any shit again I will destroy them.
primax1uk on
Good, Maybe there will be more houses on the market for first time buyers. Seems like Labour policy actually working as intended.
Vaxtez on
I have little sympathy for the landlords selling up
JoeyJoeC on
Good! Let people that haven’t got their first home yet to have a home.
parkway_parkway on
Interfering in markets almost always makes things worse.
If you want cheaper rent and better conditions then increase the supply of houses.
Giving more rights to renters with a fixed supply will increase rents.
If it reduces supply then that will increase rents more.
Ending no fault evictions means tennants will be screened much more carefully before starting and the most vulnerable will be changed even more.
Anyone cheering now will be crying in a years time.
francisdavey on
I am letting my house out (I moved to another country) and none of this seems to be at all concerning. Most of improves flexibility, eg tenancies are periodic rather than fixed term. Up until now I, and the tenant, would have to go through the motions of agreeing a new tenancy – the letting agent liked this because they would charge a fee. Now things can continue while the tenant it happy.
Rules on rent increases just require a formal notice of increase. The tenant can challenge something that isn’t at a market rate to a tribunal. These are generally sensible. I used to sit on one. Provided that you don’t try to put the rent up higher than the market rate you won’t have difficulty. If you alienate your tenant by charging lots they will go elsewhere and then you look an idiot, so better to be sensible.
You can’t evict for no reason, but I don’t want to evict my tenants. The whole point of the arrangement is that the home is occupied. Better to offer good terms and keep them. If they don’t pay the rent, there remains a ground of eviction. If that happens, I know I will end up out of pocket, but that is a risk you have to take in letting.
The only thing that gives me pause for thought is that the pet deposit is three weeks’ rent. I can imagine some pets could be quite damaging. Again that is something to take into account when budgeting the let.
DanHero91 on
Just handed in our notice to our landlord complete with a list of issues we’ve raised over six years that he has not fixed and we will not be taking responsibility for, along with screenshots and evidence of each thing.
He told me he was “shocked” to be hearing about these issues, as if he hadn’t already been repeatedly denying work requests.
Fuck landlords.
Plugged_in_Baby on
Legislation achieves its intended purpose, more news at 10.
GhostRiders on
The only thing that is going to have real effect is the building of more housing, it is that simple.
You can tinker with both Landlords and Renters rights as to make it more fair for both parties but ultimately only by increasing suppling are you going to improve things.
shrunkenshrubbery on
And yet we still can’t get rid of the fleece-holders – they must be greasing better than the landlords.
OptionalQuality789 on
> “We need more affordable homes in the UK at the moment,” she says.
As if she had no control of the price of rent she demanded
Captainatom931 on
Excellent, more housing entering the housing supply (thereby pushing down prices) and the people still renting get more protections.
Always nice to see the positive news reported for once!
Redditisfakeleft on
Okay. Now, how do we get a program to construct huge numbers of council houses off the ground?
PetersMapProject on
So she is so worried about having to give tenants a justifiable reason for evicting them from their home that she’s thrown her toys out of the pram and is no longer a landlord.
Good riddance. Sounds like she was a particularly shitty landlord anyway.
TheNathanNS on
My heart is absolutely breaking, won’t Labour think of the oppressed landlords?
kank84 on
>Patricia says “landlords are scared” of some of the changes due to come into effect.
Good. British landlords have had it too easy for too long. I moved to Canada in 2013, and I was shocked at how many more protections tenants have here vs what I had experienced in the UK. If landlords don’t want to work within the new system they should sell up.
Calelith on
No amount of sob stories or media narrative will ever make me give a shit about 95% of landlords.
The area i live in whilst not the greatest would be a great place for people to get their first homes and cheap housing not far from the city.
Instead its full of 2/3 bedroom houses been turned into tiny bedsits or been rented out for 3x more rent than the mortgage monthly cost.
VR4FUNWOOPWOOP on
ITT: people who dont understand how supply and demand work.
no landlords, almost no properties to rent.
your rents will skyrocket in 6-12 months time
arashi256 on
I’m a landlord (only the one property) and all those bulletpoints listed seem fine to me. My tenant has been in there for 10 years now and I try and do right by him. I want to sort any problems out asap as anything I don’t fix immediately will likely cost more in the long run. Sounds like this bill is only going to discourage the shitty landlords, as it should.
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Reform for the rental sector is long overdue, particularly private rentals.
Perhaps some landlords may exit the market temporarily. But overall quality and stability of housing will improve. The sold properties could also be later bought by landlords who will actually invest to make them nice to live in.
Great! More supply for the housing market which should temper house prices.
Being a landlord is not a side project. Tenants deserve better.
As a landlord all be it one that rents to students, if your selling up as you are afraid of renters bill then you shouldn’t be renting in the first place.
Patricia, who has rented out properties since 1986, says by selling the flat she was “able to get out the money” she had put into it.
Lmao yeah no profit to be had she must have put gold taps and marble floors in every year.
Landlords who are selling now because of these rights are the reason these rights are happening..too many bad landlords that do crappy repair works,let the house fall into disrepair and still charge above going rate for rent are a problem..I’ve always said that rent shouldn’t be higher than a mortgage for that area. End the buy to let schemes and let people have a chance to get onto the property ladder instead of allowing the same fat cat to add another property to the 30+ bad conditions hellholes they already have.
Going through the bill myself, I think it is all good changes as long as they ensure that evictions are actually enforced quickly by courts and judges aren’t bias against the property owners.
I wouldn’t risk renting a place out now though, seems like too much of an effort for an individual to go through courts for any eviction. Just sell the place and invest in index funds instead.
Yeah, I think lots of landlords are doing this.
I’m planning on buying my first flat soon, and I’m seeing lots of places come on the market and prices dropping.
Seems like lots of landlords are selling up, flooding the market, temporarily driving down prices. Which is great for me, but probably not good if you’re a tenant or prospective tenant, because now the rental market is about to get even more competitive – And people like me becoming owners rather than renters won’t compensate for this, because owner occupied properties have higher occupancy rates than rental properties (eg, I’m currently renting a 1 bed flat but planning on buying a 2 bed flat for myself).
Whilst I agree with the bill, it’s ultimately going to shaft renters.
It’s going to decrease rental supply, which will mean higher rents. But because it’s no longer profitable to be a small private landlord, most landlords will be huge VCs/investment firms which means more soulless apartment blocks and huge service fees.
Got evicted via section 21 twice as both landlords had other plans for their property, no clue how anyone could describe that process as traumatic. 12 months notice is a piss take lol
Well where I live rental properties have skyrocketed in cost.
The average for a 3 bedroom semi was around £750 per month a few years ago, its now well above £1000 a month as there are so few.
Fact is there will always be people who need to rent for various reasons, all that is happening right now is those who need to rent are getting shafted so whatever the Government is doing not working and is only making life worse for those who do rent.
Unfortunately, however, good a landlord is these blanket changes will simply mean any additional costs are passed to the tenant.
I had a scumlord who was an absolute dick. The whole building was unsafe. Boiler not checked. Single glazed windows. No door entry. No bulbs in the hallway.
They also;
Harassed me in two work places
Turned off the electricity
Entered without permission
Used fear tactics
I’ve lost the will to fight them but I know if they pull any shit again I will destroy them.
Good, Maybe there will be more houses on the market for first time buyers. Seems like Labour policy actually working as intended.
I have little sympathy for the landlords selling up
Good! Let people that haven’t got their first home yet to have a home.
Interfering in markets almost always makes things worse.
If you want cheaper rent and better conditions then increase the supply of houses.
Giving more rights to renters with a fixed supply will increase rents.
If it reduces supply then that will increase rents more.
Ending no fault evictions means tennants will be screened much more carefully before starting and the most vulnerable will be changed even more.
Anyone cheering now will be crying in a years time.
I am letting my house out (I moved to another country) and none of this seems to be at all concerning. Most of improves flexibility, eg tenancies are periodic rather than fixed term. Up until now I, and the tenant, would have to go through the motions of agreeing a new tenancy – the letting agent liked this because they would charge a fee. Now things can continue while the tenant it happy.
Rules on rent increases just require a formal notice of increase. The tenant can challenge something that isn’t at a market rate to a tribunal. These are generally sensible. I used to sit on one. Provided that you don’t try to put the rent up higher than the market rate you won’t have difficulty. If you alienate your tenant by charging lots they will go elsewhere and then you look an idiot, so better to be sensible.
You can’t evict for no reason, but I don’t want to evict my tenants. The whole point of the arrangement is that the home is occupied. Better to offer good terms and keep them. If they don’t pay the rent, there remains a ground of eviction. If that happens, I know I will end up out of pocket, but that is a risk you have to take in letting.
The only thing that gives me pause for thought is that the pet deposit is three weeks’ rent. I can imagine some pets could be quite damaging. Again that is something to take into account when budgeting the let.
Just handed in our notice to our landlord complete with a list of issues we’ve raised over six years that he has not fixed and we will not be taking responsibility for, along with screenshots and evidence of each thing.
He told me he was “shocked” to be hearing about these issues, as if he hadn’t already been repeatedly denying work requests.
Fuck landlords.
Legislation achieves its intended purpose, more news at 10.
The only thing that is going to have real effect is the building of more housing, it is that simple.
You can tinker with both Landlords and Renters rights as to make it more fair for both parties but ultimately only by increasing suppling are you going to improve things.
And yet we still can’t get rid of the fleece-holders – they must be greasing better than the landlords.
> “We need more affordable homes in the UK at the moment,” she says.
As if she had no control of the price of rent she demanded
Excellent, more housing entering the housing supply (thereby pushing down prices) and the people still renting get more protections.
Always nice to see the positive news reported for once!
Okay. Now, how do we get a program to construct huge numbers of council houses off the ground?
So she is so worried about having to give tenants a justifiable reason for evicting them from their home that she’s thrown her toys out of the pram and is no longer a landlord.
Good riddance. Sounds like she was a particularly shitty landlord anyway.
My heart is absolutely breaking, won’t Labour think of the oppressed landlords?
>Patricia says “landlords are scared” of some of the changes due to come into effect.
Good. British landlords have had it too easy for too long. I moved to Canada in 2013, and I was shocked at how many more protections tenants have here vs what I had experienced in the UK. If landlords don’t want to work within the new system they should sell up.
No amount of sob stories or media narrative will ever make me give a shit about 95% of landlords.
The area i live in whilst not the greatest would be a great place for people to get their first homes and cheap housing not far from the city.
Instead its full of 2/3 bedroom houses been turned into tiny bedsits or been rented out for 3x more rent than the mortgage monthly cost.
ITT: people who dont understand how supply and demand work.
no landlords, almost no properties to rent.
your rents will skyrocket in 6-12 months time
I’m a landlord (only the one property) and all those bulletpoints listed seem fine to me. My tenant has been in there for 10 years now and I try and do right by him. I want to sort any problems out asap as anything I don’t fix immediately will likely cost more in the long run. Sounds like this bill is only going to discourage the shitty landlords, as it should.