This headline/statement doesn’t even make sense. If you’re hospitalised, you need to let the DWP know because it stops most of your benefits. For some reason the government are convinced that your landlord doesn’t require rent payments unless you’re home. Make it make sense.
This is more bullshit articles to stir up hate against the disabled.
5foot7tall on
And of course they choose a picture to try and bring race into this, is there any need in stoking these divisions?
JakeGrey on
So if the victim’s family have their way, when the day comes that this guy’s well enough to be treated as an outpatient, he’ll be homeless and have to reapply for Universal Credit from scratch. Great. That will *definitely* improve his chances of not spiralling down into a relapse and ending up sectioned again.
ApprehensiveElk80 on
But the benefits already get stopped – I’ve worked in the homelessness sector for years, I think the only thing that might continue for 28 days is anyone still of ESA but most have migrated to UC, so it would be stopped.
Housing Benefit can be paid up to 13 weeks while someone is in custody but then it stops.
I don’t understand what they think he’s getting, really, or why they think he’s getting it.
rev9of8 on
I’ve long wondered when this might happen.
Most people are unaware that if you are detained in a secure hospital (or other forensic unit) by order of a court via a hospital order then you are eligible for income-related benefits whilst you are detained.
If you are detained in a forensic unit via a hospital order imposed by a court then you are not serving a custodial sentence and are thus not a prisoner. You are a patient and, as such, have all the rights of any other patient who is subject to section.
I spent two and a half years in a medium-security forensic unit a decade and a half ago after being made subject to a Compulsion Order (the Scottish equivalent of a Hospital Order) by a court following criminal proceedings and was able to claim income-related ESA
in the Support Group for the duration of my detention.
I’m just surprised they haven’t come for this sooner.
GhostRiders on
So the article doesn’t state what benefits he is claiming so there a lot of people in this sub jumping to conclusions.
These are the benefits you are able to claim (doesn’t mean you will get them) if held on remand.
Housing Benefit for shorter sentences (up to 52 weeks)
Help with council tax payments.
PIP however this stops if you are custody for more than 28 days in a 12 month period,
Maternity Allowance, as long as you satisfy the benefit entitlement conditions
Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit (IIDB)
If you’re on remand, you cannot claim:
* Universal Credit, apart from the housing payment part of UC in some cases
* Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA)
* Income Support – apart from help with housing costs
* Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
* Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Incapacity Benefit
* Attendance Allowance
* Pension Credit – apart from help with housing costs
* Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit (IIDB)
* Personal Independence Payment (PIP), if you’re in custody for more than 28 days in a 12 month period
You will not be entitled to Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) or Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) from your employer.
The reason why you can still get housing costs so that if you serve a sentence less than 12 months you don’t end homeless after you come.
So either there is a gap in the legislation where you are held in a psychiatric hospital or he simply fell through the crack.
My worry is that they blank stop benefits anybody who is being held in a psychiatric hospital as this has the potential cause a lot of harm to innocent people.
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This headline/statement doesn’t even make sense. If you’re hospitalised, you need to let the DWP know because it stops most of your benefits. For some reason the government are convinced that your landlord doesn’t require rent payments unless you’re home. Make it make sense.
This is more bullshit articles to stir up hate against the disabled.
And of course they choose a picture to try and bring race into this, is there any need in stoking these divisions?
So if the victim’s family have their way, when the day comes that this guy’s well enough to be treated as an outpatient, he’ll be homeless and have to reapply for Universal Credit from scratch. Great. That will *definitely* improve his chances of not spiralling down into a relapse and ending up sectioned again.
But the benefits already get stopped – I’ve worked in the homelessness sector for years, I think the only thing that might continue for 28 days is anyone still of ESA but most have migrated to UC, so it would be stopped.
Housing Benefit can be paid up to 13 weeks while someone is in custody but then it stops.
I don’t understand what they think he’s getting, really, or why they think he’s getting it.
I’ve long wondered when this might happen.
Most people are unaware that if you are detained in a secure hospital (or other forensic unit) by order of a court via a hospital order then you are eligible for income-related benefits whilst you are detained.
If you are detained in a forensic unit via a hospital order imposed by a court then you are not serving a custodial sentence and are thus not a prisoner. You are a patient and, as such, have all the rights of any other patient who is subject to section.
I spent two and a half years in a medium-security forensic unit a decade and a half ago after being made subject to a Compulsion Order (the Scottish equivalent of a Hospital Order) by a court following criminal proceedings and was able to claim income-related ESA
in the Support Group for the duration of my detention.
I’m just surprised they haven’t come for this sooner.
So the article doesn’t state what benefits he is claiming so there a lot of people in this sub jumping to conclusions.
These are the benefits you are able to claim (doesn’t mean you will get them) if held on remand.
Housing Benefit for shorter sentences (up to 52 weeks)
Help with council tax payments.
PIP however this stops if you are custody for more than 28 days in a 12 month period,
Maternity Allowance, as long as you satisfy the benefit entitlement conditions
Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit (IIDB)
If you’re on remand, you cannot claim:
* Universal Credit, apart from the housing payment part of UC in some cases
* Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA)
* Income Support – apart from help with housing costs
* Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
* Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Incapacity Benefit
* Attendance Allowance
* Pension Credit – apart from help with housing costs
* Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit (IIDB)
* Personal Independence Payment (PIP), if you’re in custody for more than 28 days in a 12 month period
You will not be entitled to Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) or Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) from your employer.
The reason why you can still get housing costs so that if you serve a sentence less than 12 months you don’t end homeless after you come.
So either there is a gap in the legislation where you are held in a psychiatric hospital or he simply fell through the crack.
My worry is that they blank stop benefits anybody who is being held in a psychiatric hospital as this has the potential cause a lot of harm to innocent people.