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    1. Dry_Row_7050 on

      [You can read the entire plan here. It is more dystopian than Chat Control](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf) This plan is called ”Roadmap for lawful and effective access to data for law enforcement” or ”ProtectEU” for short.

      EU [has already endorsed]( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52025DC0349) that plan, originally devised by anonymous law enforcement lobbyists. [When German MEP Patrick Breyer requested the names](https://fragdenstaat.de/anfrage/sub-groups-working-groups-of-the-high-level-expert-group-on-access-to-data-for-effective-law-enforcement/#nachricht-842415) of the individuals involved in the high level group, the group that wrote this proposal, the EU Commission [replied with a list with all names blacked out](https://media.frag-den-staat.de/files/foi/848493/document17-participantlistfirstplenary.pdf)

      They are so proud of the plan, it is all over their website, such as [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/high-level-group-hlg-access-data-effective-law-enforcement_en)
      and [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/internal-security/lawful-access-data/data-retention_en) and [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/internal-security/lawful-access-data_en) too

      By the way, about the data retention aspect of this law, the [previous data retention law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive) was declared illegal in 2014 by CJEU (EU’s highest court) for being mass surveillance and violating human rights.

      Since most EU states refused to follow the court order and the EU commission refused to enforce it, [CJEU recently caved in to political pressure](https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2024/04/30/surveillance-and-hadopi-eu-court-buries-online-anonymity-a-little-further/) and changed their stance on data retention, making it legal. We shall see if the Commission refuses to enforce court decisions this time when it is about invading privacy rather than protecting it.

      **The Europol chief said that in a digital environment, the police needed to be able to decode these messages to fight crime. [“You will not be able to enforce democracy without it,”](https://www.belganewsagency.eu/europol-chief-calls-on-tech-giants-to-unlock-encrypted-messages) she added.**

    2. Acrobatic_Morning17 on

      It’s needed for the war. Also “the most far fetching surveillance apparatus the world has ever seen” is a bit of a stretch. US did that because they needed it for the GWOT.

    3. UnawareSeriousness on

      I’m not that much in this topic. What are the actual dangers of that for a common, non-criminal citizen?

      EDIT: Sheesh… Ask a question on Reddit and get downvoted for curiosity. Classic.

    4. l_______I on

      Isn’t that made by those guys who conveniently had their data removed?

    5. YeetMyM3at on

      When privacy gets rebranded as a threat, we’ve got a problem.

    6. True_Inxis on

      I’ve found this was introduced in April, how is this different from ChatControl?

    7. Chickentrap on

      WEF have told their puppets what they want and the puppets tell us what we need.

      Of course politicians the wealthy will be exempt from such things, there’s security risks for them!

    8. hamstar_potato on

      Told y’all EU is pushing hard for these laws until one passes. And if one passes, the other ones do too. EU isn’t this nice community where they want the best for citizens. In reality, it’s a block quickly turning authoritarian and dystopic. The fact that EU law is above country laws is gonna fuck us hard. Digital sovereignty will mean the Chinese or Russian systems for us.

    9. Stale_Ketchup on

      Thank fuck we will never join the dystopian EU. At this point we should just leave the EEA

    10. GrandOrchid3868 on

      Here we go again. It seems they don’t know when to quit

    11. Just like the Digital services act which is partly in breach this will be in breach of the GDPR

    12. Any-Cat21 on

      They should imprison those who propose this, because young people are leaving Europe

    13. jyroman53 on

      Every time chatcontrol fails to pass, it comes back stronger, how do we get rid of that evil ?

    14. Spiritual_Sky_5237 on

      The EU is becoming more and more a tool of the billionaire class. I will support my country exiting from it if this happens.

    15. UndeadBBQ on

      What gets me most about it, is that its really only against normal, innocent citizens.

      Criminals, terrorists, spy networks,… will find other ways real quick. Two weeks tops.

    16. NGG_GreyHound on

      EU is a dangerous entity that needs to be exposed for what it is.

    17. I know the UK has it’s own issues but holy moly things like Chat Control & now this sometimes make me glad i’m out of the EU (Although I am a ardent believer that the UK should have remained & Brexit was a mistake)

    18. KaiserGSaw on

      Rules for thee but not for me.

      Fucking assholes

      Thanks for sharing, dystopian doesnt begin to describe these people

    19. There is just no way these people are so stupid they still don’t understand why this is just not technically possible without undermining our digital society.

      The only explanation for this push is authoritarianism.

    20. Wisniaksiadz on

      *be future proof*

      yeah, that one is definitly realized for couple of years now

    21. They want a backdoor while maintaining the integrity of encryption. These folks believe in magic.

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