È improbabile che le imposte sul reddito e le assicurazioni nazionali aumentino – poiché Sky News ottiene la definizione di “persone che lavorano”
https://news.sky.com/story/income-tax-and-national-insurance-unlikely-to-rise-as-sky-news-obtains-definition-of-working-people-13459288
di Anony_mouse202
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Ah, I keep forgetting I am in the land of milk and honey with my over £45,000 wage, total mistake Rachel, tax away my exceedingly rich arse.
So VAT, then. Which is the most regressive way to tax anyone.
Cheers Rachel, I’ll get off the train at the next stop and go home since I’m not a working man any more. Might still be early enough to go back to sleep
>Reeves is unlikely to hike these taxes because the Treasury says those earning £45,000 or less qualify as “working people”.
This is just a continuation of last years ‘working people’ debate when Kier said ‘I have in mind people who go out to earn their living, may have some savings, but don’t have the ability to sort of routinely write a big cheque if they get into difficulties.’
And millions of Britain’s found out this government doesn’t see them as working people. They’re clowns to bring this up again. They really are.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-does-keir-starmer-think-a-working-person-is/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/24/keir-starmer-hints-at-tax-rises-on-people-with-income-from-assets
> Rachel Reeves is unlikely to raise **the basic rates of income tax and national insurance** in order to avoid breaking a promise to protect “working people” in the budget.
Not exactly what it says in the headline is it?
The fact that they are still trying to cling to some sort of definition of “Working People” rather than just admitting they were wrong to make that manifesto pledge and that the situation demands that they break it shows they aren’t serious people.
45k is their definition? So they’ll be lowering higher rate threshold from 50 to 45 no doubt. Middle class cannot possibly be allowed to have anything after all.
If they raise higher rate tax but do nothing about the historically low levels of tax paid by median and low earners I will be finished here. I already see myself taxed out of the arsehole for basically no public services in return (but lots handed over to millionaire boomers, illegals, and people with ADHD who apparently need a brand new cars every three years at my expense).
There’s a tipping point and I, and I suspect many others with “broad shoulders”, are at it.
[Edit for a typo – taxpayers > tax]
That patio extension may have to wait until 2027…time to whip out the tiny violins.
I sometimes wonder why I bother waking up in the morning and go to work.
The tax bands being frozen is already a bloody stealth tax. If they increase the higher rate income tax bracket I’m done here.
Just raise EE NI back to 10% from 8% as it’d still be lower than the 12% it was up to a few months before the election.
For a stimulus you could reduce or remove ee autoenrolment for two years (keep the employer one).
Other things, restrict tax benefits on pension contributions, add a bit to the upper employee NI rate, remove the personal allowance taper.
Might as well put a picture of Rachel Reeves on my desk to remind me who I’m doing it all for.
didnt the tories try to raise national insurance and taxes at some point and every single newspaper argued “dont bloody do it its a terrible idea”
Oh, shit, I had no idea I am not in fact a broke boy and am in fact rich beyond my wildest dreams.
Happy to make that sacrifice as long as billionaire wealth continues to be protected
So those on £46k don’t work? I’m liking this, how do I sign up?
If, as the article states, the root cause of the issue is productivity, might I suggest that making it increasingly less attractive to put that extra effort in, take on that additional responsibility etc. to achieve a moderately higher salary is literally the worst thing they could do.
Abolish NI and incorporate into income tax: equalise rates of tax for earned and unearned income, remedy the worst inequality of the triple lock without removing it on paper. If you REALLY wanted to address the financial issues of this country without disproportionately hurting working people, the solution is right there.
Anyone who would starve to death eventually if they stopped working today and couldn’t for the rest of their lives is a working person. There fixed it for you Rachel Reeves.
So someone earning 45k will be redefined as a cash cow for govt purposes? Not a working person, a working cow to be milked by our esteemed leaders.
The Media is writing the Budget right now… all because they want to create their outrage narrative.
I hate Taxes, I hate the stangant growth we’re had since 2010, I hate what the Tories did to us, I hate how the Media have served up this new Government as the ones responsible for 14 years of shit.
But we need to come to terms with what COVID bail outs cost, and what the Ukraine war Inflation has done. (lets exclude the self inflicted 14y of budget cutting and BREXIT issues for a moment)
These things cost the country a large fortune, we are in massive debt to COVID and Inflation made it worse to pay those debts back. At some point we are going to have to pay the bills.
Either more cost cutting or more taxes. Both are shit. Cost cutting gets you no where and just creates more costly mess (see Tories 2010-2024) raising Taxes in the right places and investing in the right places, is probably the only way out of the mess we are in.
Labour just keep digging and digging a hole for themselves. Like do they have a Tory doing their PR trying to ensure they don’t get re-elected?
45k is an odd number to pick given the higher rate threshold is 50k. I wonder if they are planning to reduce that threshold to 45k. Maybe even they will increase the rate for higher tax payers if they don’t consider us working people. If that’s the case then my pension is going to grow rapidly until 2029 and the government will get less tax off me than they do now.
The fact this wage is considered high earning is tragic. You realise I work full time for my wage right even though I am just over your arbitrary number spouted (which doesn’t align to existing tax bands completely but thats another point).
Wher-king pee-ple
You can just hear these MPs bash out that term. Urgh.
Unpopular opinion but I’ve been of the opinion that Labour should have cancelled the NI reduction that was offered by Sunak as a last ditch effort to win the election. That It’s too late now because people got used to it but I’m sure it could have been argued very early on that it was a reckless swan song move by the tories and needs to be reverted.