La riforma propone di tagliare i pagamenti Pip alle persone con ansia
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cze6r2zk5d3o
di DekiTree
La riforma propone di tagliare i pagamenti Pip alle persone con ansia
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cze6r2zk5d3o
di DekiTree
26 commenti
‘Anxiety’ experienced by most people is like how most people experience depression, which is to say that they don’t. For as long as people think it’s essentially just being nervous then populists will feast on attacking sufferers as being merely idle.
Add giving PIP mobility cars to people with ADHD to the list too.
EDIT: For those asking for stats: ADHD is the 14th most commonly approved claim. [https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-health-conditions/claim-pip-for-adhd](https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-health-conditions/claim-pip-for-adhd)
In two minds about this. Diagnosed with GAD 2015 and Prozac helped a lot with getting moving, but real progress came with self improvement. I still get anxiety but it is manageable.
I truly sympathise and empathise with anyone with the condition, it is awful, but avoidance and hiding away is the road to misery
Honestly fair enough to some degree. As much as it is probably going to get me downvoted, there’s definitely a subset of people struggling with varying degrees of anxiety that should be in systems aiming to help them get into work and overcome their challenges, rather than compounding their issues by simply telling them feeling this way is just how it is and you’ll never work.
There’s a real discussion going on right now in my sector (education) that is suggesting we are permanently damaging young people, alongside doctors, but allowing students to be exempt from too much related to anxiety because they have a doctor’s note. The problem is this simply compounds the issue over time and makes it worse.
Teachers feel restricted, because they have a doctor’s note, and doctor’s are simply more than happy to write a note as they feel the anxiety is genuine. No one is technically wrong here, as everyone is following procedure, but the procedures likely need a huge overhaul to consider what is in the best long-term for the students and not only focus on short term benefits.
I can see the same considerations making sense for adults.
Do I think Reform will take this money and instead invest it into actively helping people? Fuck no.
It’s not your problem, but by the same token the onus is upon oneself to seek appropriate care/advice. Doing the opposite’s the same as bottling problems up, which can often lead to adverse consequences impacting ‘civilians’.
I truly despise how the politicians think beating down the ill, poor and disabled is a vote winner.
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But i depsise even more the people whose votes it wins.
This country has a remarkably progressive policy towards people suffering from mental health conditions (which long term anxiety is), and we should be proud of the way we embrace paths forwards on this.
The race to the bottom proposed by reform is, by definition, regressive.
Edit; I see that the bandwagoning goes both ways, judging by the ups and downs on this post.
I wonder how many people interested in this post are only here because the original comment has the word “reform” in the title.
And you’re going to replace that pip with easier access to ways to combat that anxiety right? Right?
As someone who’s lived through anxiety and daily panic attacks I have to say I’m for this. Obviously people’s experiences will differ but the absolute worst thing for my condition was being at home alone with my crazy anxious brain. My employer was supportive and I worked full time whilst working on getting myself better (took about 2 years). If I’d signed on to benefits and stayed home chances are I would have given up and become a recluse. We don’t need handouts for people with poor mental health, what we need is supportive work environments and accessible treatment on the NHS.
The UK has one of the worst welfare funds in Europe btw
It should depend on the level of anxiety. Most people feel anxious on a day to day basis but can cope but it’s debilitating to others.
As someone with a diagnosed anxiety condition, who attends counselling and has to take medication for it.
These people do not have a clue lol
How about if you are racist and have anxiety? Then what?
Brought to you by the same people who think depression is feeling a bit sad, a bad back is just a little twinge that a lay down will sort out and PTSD is something you should man up about and get on with it. Surprised they didn’t blame people having anxiety on all the immigrants about these days.
The problem is anxiety is something that affects everybody differently and it’s also inconsistent in many. I was diagnosed with anxiety when I was about 19 (after being a very anxious child for well over a decade) and on some days I’m absolutely fine, there’s underlying anxiety but I can function. But there’s also flare-ups when something triggers it and I know for an absolute fact I couldn’t work in those moments. I couldn’t watch a movie, I couldn’t relax on the sofa, I couldn’t socialise, I couldn’t do anything. It can be hours or days. So it’s really hard to judge.
The system is already difficult for people with mental health conditions and not enough funding going towards helping them, in the unlikely event Reform got in, and in the unlikely event they kept this promise, it would destroy individuals.
The sooner we bin off this nonsense and get these bone idle idiots back into the workplace the better. No wonder Reform are surging in the polls.
Right become people like myself who are diagnosed with both depression and anxiety plus on medication for both are exaggerating.
There are days where I just have massive panic attacks for no reason, There doesn’t have to be one, but sure we’re being sensative or exaggerating…
Edit: typed this out in anger, Never type in anger.
‘Let’s make the world worse and then blame everyone else for how they feel about it’
If reform need to prove that many sufferers of anxiety would have to die rather than be able to go to work then there will be plenty of people to help them do that before they reverse this policy.
I feel dirty agreeing with that horrendous party on something but this is sensible. Yes a small minority of people with anxiety have it to a crippling extent, like can’t leave the house bad. Most people with anxiety can treat it with lifestyle changes like exercise and less drinking/coping mechanisms and SSRIs if necessary. The country is skint and that money can go on people with life-altering mental health issues. Not people having a shitty time.
Ah good. More cruelty for the sake of cruelty, I was worried they might go off-brand for a second.
30p Lee pontificating and lecturing people about subjects he knows precious little to nothing about. Again!!
It’s gonna be a funny day when all the very people that voted Reform over immigration realise they voted to have their own throats cut with benefit cuts .
I’ve said it before and it usually gets downvoted, but why not means test it? I appreciate that life costs some people more, but if they’re working and earning good money then it’s a saving that could be made.
This thread is showing how many people don’t truly understand what proper anxiety is.
the last people I trust on mental health are politicians. at the back of that list are reform politicians.