Well it did last time, so yes. All those restaurants and bars and shops need to increase prices to cover the higher wages.
denbo786 on
Yes and you want inflation, but at a sustainable level
Sharp_Fuel on
Yes, higher wage costs, prsi costs, pension contribution costs. Those earning over minimum wage will be screwed, won’t see near the same increase if any
Edit: no idea why I’m being down voted for stating objective fact, this will do nothing to increase real wages
creakingwall on
It’s currently a sellers market so yes.
Bright_Student_5599 on
And the new pension is from nett salary, so wages will go down. I know it’s only nominal but I see a storm brewing as the new pension (1.5% paid by employer) will also affect pay increases. In other words staff won’t get them. This is a problem, with increased min wage, as SME’s will struggle with all the costs, obviously making it harder to survive.
ReleaseResident6249 on
Of course it will
Mundane-Wasabi9527 on
The government still doesn’t tax REIT let the average person foot the bill. It’s a joke if you need a list of action on how to cause a housing crisis just do everything the Irish government has done in the last 10 years.
DifficultMobile4095 on
Tax the rich more
AluminiumCrackers on
No, the employers will absorb the additional cost and reduce their profit margins.
I suppose I should put an /s here.
possibly-spam on
Yes, but they keep hiking up prices anyway
People are drowning
Alastor001 on
A child will work it out.
Of course if costs increase, so do prices for services / products. How else would it be?
Higher min wage. If you increase that, other employees on non-min wage will also ask for rise. Then there is higher PRSI, higher pension. More to pay for holidays. Etc.
Bigbeast54 on
Strictly speaking costs and prices are unrelated. The price charged is the price the consumer is willing to pay. When it is put out there that costs increase there is a general public acceptance of rising prices
Energy and insurance costs are mostly to blame for inflation in this country. Businesses are buckling under the strain and passing it on and meanwhile making those industries are making record profits. The government could do something about both issues, they are choosing not to.
Acceptable_Hope_6475 on
Still too low
Reasonable-Food4834 on
Great news
JustPutSpuddiesOnit on
Just being alive causes inflation.
The price of milk and butter has never deflated in my life time.
The obvious one is employers raise their prices to cover increased labour costs. But that effect is fairly weak, because increases in minimum wages are retrospective: the inflation has already happened, and minimum wages are catching up.
The other way is more interesting. Give a well-to-do business owner €1,000 windfall, and she’ll probably put it in a savings account, dreaming of another buy-to-let mortgage or something. That’s not because she’s especially prudent; it’s because she already has most of her immediate wants and needs met.
But if you transfer that €1,000 to her workforce through a rise in the minimum wage, most of it will be quickly spent on things that improve quality of life. Shoes, Nintendo Switch, driving lessons, tooth implants, an evening at the pub … whatever it is people spend their money on. That’s what gets an economy moving. But if this pushes demand above capacity – if dentists and driving instructors are already fully booked – then prices will go up.
Alastor001 on
I see only few here if any own businesses…
5u114 on
Inflation causes the need for higher minimum wages.
ServeAccomplished424 on
oh the humanity, how will the economy recover from this, eat the minimum wage workers
OHHHSHAAANE on
The minimum wage should be set to rise every at say 10 or 20c every year with a review every 5 or 10 years.
Waiting every few years to lob 60 or 70c on causes massive shocks to small and medium businesses and combined with the new pension laws this year too I’ve talked to a few people saying they’re trying to sell up and get out.
They don’t see a way they can absorb the cost. And they can’t see a way they can pass on the cost without losing custom and driving custom to the major corporate players
chonkykais16 on
The prices are increasing anyways, and the minimum wage is not keeping up with that. Minimum wage workers earning a bit more is not the problem.
Glad_Mushroom_1547 on
Fact is that labour is vastly undervalued and misunderstood from a business perspective and instead of putting money where it belongs, i.e in the person who makes the moneys pocket. Labour is used as a way to save on money, which is such a blinkered short term approach, as to be negligence at worst, and sheer wilful ignorance at best. Really is an absurd situation.
HedFuka on
Wages go up ..prices go up ..no winners…
Asleep_Chart8375 on
If wages make up 10% of your costs, a 10% increase in minimum wage would justify a 1% increase in your sales price.
I’m more than willing to pay an extra 5 cents for a hamburger.
BarefootWallah on
The cost of housing is much more of a driver of inflation.
NocturneFogg on
I don’t really see minimum wage as pushing up inflation, rather that inflation’s pushing up the minimum wage. You couldn’t live on it.
Small_Sundae_4245 on
How come we never see these headlines when CEO and senior management get a pay increase?
Harneybus on
ah the days where u can but a freddo for 50c
barker505 on
Yes it will but it’s a good thing for lower income workers. Also should incentivise automation and for those on the right it can lead to lower immigration as there’s less incentive for gombeen business owners to import low cost labour.
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Yes
Well it did last time, so yes. All those restaurants and bars and shops need to increase prices to cover the higher wages.
Yes and you want inflation, but at a sustainable level
Yes, higher wage costs, prsi costs, pension contribution costs. Those earning over minimum wage will be screwed, won’t see near the same increase if any
Edit: no idea why I’m being down voted for stating objective fact, this will do nothing to increase real wages
It’s currently a sellers market so yes.
And the new pension is from nett salary, so wages will go down. I know it’s only nominal but I see a storm brewing as the new pension (1.5% paid by employer) will also affect pay increases. In other words staff won’t get them. This is a problem, with increased min wage, as SME’s will struggle with all the costs, obviously making it harder to survive.
Of course it will
The government still doesn’t tax REIT let the average person foot the bill. It’s a joke if you need a list of action on how to cause a housing crisis just do everything the Irish government has done in the last 10 years.
Tax the rich more
No, the employers will absorb the additional cost and reduce their profit margins.
I suppose I should put an /s here.
Yes, but they keep hiking up prices anyway
People are drowning
A child will work it out.
Of course if costs increase, so do prices for services / products. How else would it be?
Higher min wage. If you increase that, other employees on non-min wage will also ask for rise. Then there is higher PRSI, higher pension. More to pay for holidays. Etc.
Strictly speaking costs and prices are unrelated. The price charged is the price the consumer is willing to pay. When it is put out there that costs increase there is a general public acceptance of rising prices
So yes, prices will rise
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Energy and insurance costs are mostly to blame for inflation in this country. Businesses are buckling under the strain and passing it on and meanwhile making those industries are making record profits. The government could do something about both issues, they are choosing not to.
Still too low
Great news
Just being alive causes inflation.
The price of milk and butter has never deflated in my life time.
This is the closest thing we, as consumers, have as a real measure of inflation: [https://www.vouchercloud.com/better-living/the-freddo-index](https://www.vouchercloud.com/better-living/the-freddo-index)
Yes, it can, in two ways.
The obvious one is employers raise their prices to cover increased labour costs. But that effect is fairly weak, because increases in minimum wages are retrospective: the inflation has already happened, and minimum wages are catching up.
The other way is more interesting. Give a well-to-do business owner €1,000 windfall, and she’ll probably put it in a savings account, dreaming of another buy-to-let mortgage or something. That’s not because she’s especially prudent; it’s because she already has most of her immediate wants and needs met.
But if you transfer that €1,000 to her workforce through a rise in the minimum wage, most of it will be quickly spent on things that improve quality of life. Shoes, Nintendo Switch, driving lessons, tooth implants, an evening at the pub … whatever it is people spend their money on. That’s what gets an economy moving. But if this pushes demand above capacity – if dentists and driving instructors are already fully booked – then prices will go up.
I see only few here if any own businesses…
Inflation causes the need for higher minimum wages.
oh the humanity, how will the economy recover from this, eat the minimum wage workers
The minimum wage should be set to rise every at say 10 or 20c every year with a review every 5 or 10 years.
Waiting every few years to lob 60 or 70c on causes massive shocks to small and medium businesses and combined with the new pension laws this year too I’ve talked to a few people saying they’re trying to sell up and get out.
They don’t see a way they can absorb the cost. And they can’t see a way they can pass on the cost without losing custom and driving custom to the major corporate players
The prices are increasing anyways, and the minimum wage is not keeping up with that. Minimum wage workers earning a bit more is not the problem.
Fact is that labour is vastly undervalued and misunderstood from a business perspective and instead of putting money where it belongs, i.e in the person who makes the moneys pocket. Labour is used as a way to save on money, which is such a blinkered short term approach, as to be negligence at worst, and sheer wilful ignorance at best. Really is an absurd situation.
Wages go up ..prices go up ..no winners…
If wages make up 10% of your costs, a 10% increase in minimum wage would justify a 1% increase in your sales price.
I’m more than willing to pay an extra 5 cents for a hamburger.
The cost of housing is much more of a driver of inflation.
I don’t really see minimum wage as pushing up inflation, rather that inflation’s pushing up the minimum wage. You couldn’t live on it.
How come we never see these headlines when CEO and senior management get a pay increase?
ah the days where u can but a freddo for 50c
Yes it will but it’s a good thing for lower income workers. Also should incentivise automation and for those on the right it can lead to lower immigration as there’s less incentive for gombeen business owners to import low cost labour.
Something for everyone!