Ciao a tutti. Questo video presenta il Belgio come un "stato narcotrafficante"portando l’impressione di città piene di droga, bande e violenza. Da turista non ho assistito a queste cose, ma sono stato in un paese solo pochi giorni. Potete per favore condividere le vostre opinioni e darmi un po’ di luce per sapere se si tratta di un problema reale o solo di dati esagerati? Grazie per le vostre risposte
di Zestyclose_Piece_427
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It’s almost like the “war on drugs” made everything worse. How could we have known since exactly the same thing happened in every country that started a war on drugs? Weird. Luckily we didn’t pursue the recipes that actually work like in Portugal. Don’t want that left wing shit that works here.
I don’t think so. You’d have to search far and wide to find someone who knows someone who was personally affected by drugs, gangs and violence
Does Belgium currently have issues with drug related violence, yes. Is this video, and especially the title, sensationalized BS, also yes.
We should close more Cannabis CBD shops that still dare to display smoking products and sue to hell the owners !
That should help people and fight drugs dealing !
/s
Ah yes, the homocide rates…
As a normal citizen you will only ever hear about these incidents in the news. At worst, you will see some junkies hanging out in Gare du Nord, but not more than in other big cities.
The real problem is the deep-seated corruption in the political elite, which makes Belgium particularly vulnerable to being controlled by criminal gangs.
But tackling is a lot harder than than just putting a few more policemen into the harbour and crack down on some poor junkies in the train stations. So they do that instead.
TLDR news in general is a bunch of barely researched cherry picked clickbait videos.
It just takes any topic that catches the eyes from some article, and just rehashes that same source into a video with barely any extra research or insights. Youtube “news” channels at its worst.
That said, Belgium can barely be called a Narco state. It merely has the second biggest port of Europe, with the arguably biggest market for the product right at your door: Flanders and Bruxeles, Netherlands, Paris and the German Ruhr area.
So much tonnage goes through that port that some drugs can be hidden fairly easy and a good enough percentage goes through unnoticed for this to be profitable. You need minimal bribes and drivers to get the stuff to the end-user once it reaches Antwerp.
So no Belgium isnt a Narco state, its merely a useful Logistical Hub for the stuff. As for users I wouldn’t say its significantly higher here than in the neighbouring countries.
The first part wasn’t too bad, but he lost me when he went to link the drug-related violence to the homicide rates and comparing them to other countries. This comparison is something the statisticians explicitly say you shouldn’t do because if a variety of reasons such as: difference in geography, means of reporting from victims and police, etc.
In general they aren’t entirely incorrect, but they mix different facts together and make it seems like they are all connected directly or even indirectly.
watched this too, I’d say it’s quite accurate, but also sensational and clickbaity
Some items of thought
1. Is the average reddit user on this sub affected by it, most likely not, except that some of those well educated hipsters have no problem using coke – aka the replies here need to be taken with a grain of salt.
2. Is Belgian politics, with its enormous apparat of officials, sensitive to corruption? – absolutely and certainly in bigger cities
3. Are people sufferig from the drugs and the violence around it, absolutely, just not the people you will find replying on this sub.
4. Is the video edited in a too sensational way, yes to some extend but the bottomline is true.
Yo Bartje , zoek je nog een paar miljoentjes ?
Legaliseer en open een deel staatsgerunde coffeeshops.
This term was started by right wing politicians in Belgium and is now being repeated by external groups. The numbers show otherwise, crime is down. There is a large port and drugs are criminalized so there will continue to be a problem here for the foreseeable future.
Not a bigger problem than in most other countries.
Except that drug money is used to *influence* lawyers. Multimillionaire ring leaders of drug traffic can afford expensive lawyers who will do whatever it takes ~~to save their own skin~~ to keep their clients out of prison.
To an outsider, the drug industry has support from *the inside*, from the top of politics and law enforcement.
Nothing is going to change until the use of cocaine is treated the same way as smoking or DUI.