Ci sono moltissimi immigrati e studenti internazionali che pagano le tasse rispetto al numero dei rifugiati. Soprattutto studenti e immigrati dal Sud e Sud-Est asiatico. Si prega di considerare questo quando si discute di questioni influenzate dall’immigrazione.
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This is not that surprising to anyone who knows anything about immigration. The panicking about immigrants being incredibly expensive for Finland is and has always been stupid.
I think when they use immigrants they mostly refer to refugees or some specific groups of immigrants. Not all immigrants are leech, that is a stupid generalization.
The problem with this, like many other discussions about immigration, is that all immigrants are grouped together as a uniform mass.
Anyone who takes even half a second to think about this topic knows this. That’s not the real issue. They know that immigrants are a net positive. But they don’t care. Xenophobia and bigotry outweigh all logical thought processing. They are absolutely willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. I understand the concerns with taking on too many refugees, and issues with proper integration into Finnish society. I agree that there is an issue when people from vastly different cultures come here and don’t behave in a way befitting of Finnish society. But those people are by FAR the minority. And those who push anti-immigration rhetoric know that. But that’s not the point to them.
Paying more taxes doesn’t offset the other issues from immigration, illegal or not. You can’t fix all problems with money.
You can not lump immigrants in one big bucket and make conclusions. Yes maybe overall they pay more than they take but everywhere this gets studied in details shows that certain migrants whether we like it or not are a net drain and other a net gain. Just because there are productive migrants does not mean we must be accepting of the non-productive ones and can not express concerns on this matter.
Recent data from Netherlands as an example tracking net contributions over lifetime based on immigration background (source – report from senior researchers in University of Amsterdam https://demo-demo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Borderless_Welfare_State-2.pdf)
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Why should it be the other way around? Finns built this country.
This study does not take into account the amount of social services paid for with taxes, the amount of police activity or other negative impacts immigrants cause (pushing lower educated Finns out of the workforce).
With all those taken into account, I highly doubt the number is still net positive.
There is a great Youtube video called “Why immigration is not saving Europe’s economy” by Into Europe that provide a great summary on how certain immigrant groups affected European welfare states. Certain immigrant groups have a positive net contribution and others the complete opposite. You can not save a European welfare state with low-skill/low education immigrants from non-western countries. They rely on the welfare state too much and do not provide enough tax revenue to compensate.
The immigration has been insane on the whole EU level. I can personally see this on the street level, where this country is looking like I’m in Bangladesh!
This is a pure sign of a declining society.
Replacing old family-oriented communities and values with Reddit/YouTube subscriptions and corporate greed to bring immigrants in, so even natives begin struggling to find work and lowering already stagnant wages with this new paikallinen sopiminen labour law.
Everybody knows this, lumping all immigrants together is stupid and misleading.