
Il veterano della Seconda Guerra Mondiale dichiara che vincere la guerra “non ne valeva la pena” a causa dello stato del Regno Unito
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/ww2-veteran-declares-winning-the-war-wasnt-worth-state-of-uk-5HjdGTg_2/
di StGuthlac2025
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Very old person of likely failing mental health used by media to spin a viewpoint.
Dude’s 100 for crying out loud – he was 15 at the start of the war, and 21 at the end of it, so I’d expect his knowledge of the real reasons for it be pretty shaky.
It’s tricky. I’m grateful for his service, respect his opinion and he’s got the right for his voice to be heard. But this is an 100 year old man and this interview will be used by some to fuel division.
That’s unfortunately vague enough that lots will be projecting what he means on to that statement.
I will say being lucky enough to be old enough to meet some WW2 vets they had incredible personality that is rare today. It came with its own issues of ignoring the trauma they went through but any I met were very measured characters.
What? Did he want to speak German, drive a VW, be 30% more efficient at work?
Madness.
I understand the spirit of this statement – that we have lost freedoms and it’s shameful – but the stakes of WW2 were FAR greater than anything modern politics has produced since.
Flawed democracy, limited liberty, and piecemeal equality across the whole of Europe will always be worth fighting for in the face of Fascism. My life, like many others, depends on it.
The article doesn’t say why he felt that way, so I went looking for one which does.
[https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/adil-ray-itv-gmb-wwii-war-hero-alec-penstone-backlash-uk](https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/adil-ray-itv-gmb-wwii-war-hero-alec-penstone-backlash-uk)
>”The country of today. No, I’m sorry, the sacrifice wasn’t worth the result that it is now.”
>As Ms Garraway offered a sympathetic response to Mr Penstone’s point of view, Mr Ray interjected for the first time during the discussion and attempted to press him to expand on his point.
>”What do you mean by that, though?” the GMB host probed, prompting the WWII veteran to reply: “What we fought for, and what we fought for was our freedom.
>”We find that even now it’s downright worse than when I fought for it.”
Can’t really fault that.
Alec said: “My message is, I can see in my mind’s eye those rows and rows of white stones and all the hundreds of my friends who gave their lives, for what? The country of today?
No, I’m sorry – but the sacrifice wasn’t worth the result of what it is now.”
The pace of change this country has endured in the past decades has been too rapid and non-organic that it was inevitable that the country’s well-being would be severely compromised.
No one asked for this. On the contrary, people, time and time again, stated they wanted sensible immigration policy enacted. Instead, they were spoonfed marketing slogans as the government enacted a bathtub policy towards immigration. The water has been endlessly flowing to the point of flooding, whilst the quality of the water has not been adequately tested.
If we are to heal as a country, we must move beyond seeing immigration as a simple numbers game. We need to develop a dynamic and adaptable (‘shower-head’) system that continues to monitor the threshold at which cultural differences impact community cohesion.
In cases where it’s been identified, there are emerging risks of sectarianism and discohesion, greater levels of control are necessary.
> “The country of today. No, I’m sorry, the sacrifice wasn’t worth the result that it is now.”
Mr Ray interjected for the first time during the discussion and attempted to press him to expand on his point.
> “What do you mean by that, though?” the GMB host probed, prompting the WWII veteran to reply: “What we fought for, and what we fought for was our freedom.
> “We find that even now it’s downright worse than when I fought for it.”
Amusingly, the person interviewing him (Adil Ray) and who was aghast that he would think such a thing yesterday tweeted this;
> Some say Mamdani may implement Sharia Law. He might. The heart of Sharia is social justice, welfare, fairness, charity and cohesion. Most Muslim countries operate a hybrid of Sharia & civil law, are slowly reforming and abandoning unethical practices despite the west’s portrayal.
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Let’s have another war to reset things and then we can complain again about the “youths of today don’t know they are born” and we continue to rant “it was much better in my day”.
He’s talking absolute nonsense, the Nazis were conducting genocide on a industrial scale. It wasn’t worth it to end that? I respect him for his service but this is bollocks.
What do people want? A big list. He clearly thinks the country is in a terrible state and there are many many reasons for that. Some of us will agree with many of them.
Isn’t that enough?
What is with the comments here
This was 1 person, and their experience, out of millions. What they say means no more, or shouldn’t have any more power than anyone else.
The fact you’re all trying to take something away and attribute some sort of higher meaning to it is stupid.
> Grumpy old man whinges that the country is going downhill since his day
Since when was this news?
The man fought against fascism, racism and genocide only to see these recently emerge again on the international stage. And our government and international institutions have done absolutely nothing to condemn it or taken any action against it. I really can’t blame his choice of words…