Also funny how the PBP guy is complaining about a 3% increase to 18% but the PBP manifesto says 25% of income should be rent.
Bill_Badbody on
>On average this will likely see an extra fiver taken off council house tenants a week, that is a lot of money for someone who is on the basic €240 per week rate of social benefit.
Its quiet ironic that the first thing he mentions is people on social welfare, when the same person would be giving out about the presumption that everyone in council houses is on the dole.
smallirishwolfhound on
“The poorest” are absolutely not people handed a free gaf that they have to pay a measly 15% of their NET income for ONE occupier to live in and maintain. Also loving the quote about the increase of a whopping fiver for those on social welfare – we’re at full employment, hon off and get a job ffs.
Those of us stuck in the rental trap, unable to save to buy while also being ineligible for social housing are in a worse situation than those that have walked into a lifelong tenure maintained by the local council.
General_Z0 on
The poorest are not DCC tenants. Walk past any block of social housing in the north inner city and you’ll see Beamers, Audis and Range Rovers in all the car parks.
The poorest are in crowded and cold private tenancies, emergency accommodation or on the footpaths. Their ma’s box rooms if they’re lucky.
No_Reason_8214 on
… try renting in the private sector – it’s a nightmare – try buying a home and again, a nightmare – my sympathies are low tbh – ye are very lucky that society contributes so heavily to look after others ….
binksee on
Not reflecting reality at all.
Market rates for rent are almost 50-60% for non-social housing, giving 15% for social housing is a joke.
Additionally standards for social housing have gone through the roof, costs to outfit and maintain are far higher than they were 30 years ago. Can’t let people keep riding the system.
The fact is that if you have social housing and bother to scratch yourself working you have a very high quality of life in Dublin, and it just isn’t equitable with those that work hard to afford private rentals.
NotAnotherOne2024 on
Get the violins out…
The vast majority of new developments in around the city are being bought/developed by AHBs or DCC themselves, have a look at page 11/12 of the linked below.
Some cracking developments that received planning permission for BTR now being bought for social housing. Notably the developments in Glasnevin, I’d be interested to see what the per unit costs are for them.
Value for money clearly doesn’t matter for the State. Throwing money around whilst widening the divide between those that contribute and those that don’t.
An extra €5 a week for accomodation. Pittance. And that’s €5 from the money the taxpayer gives them to sit on their arse and watch TV all day. They call these areas “underprivileged”. Sounds like a pretty privileged existence and attitude for me. Contribute nothing to society but demand everything from society. I don’t know why our politics seems to be dominated by pandering to the permanent welfare class who generally couldn’t be arsed voting anyway.
Wolfwalker71 on
It’s so hard to sell people in social housing as the victims when it’s really people in private rental agreements who are the worst off in Ireland.
Future_Jackfruit5360 on
Seems like this is just another way to get people punching down again.
How dare those jobless people have to pay less rent than me etc etc.
Don’t be blinded by it, look at the policymakers who made the policies if you want to see the cause of the problem.
Confident_Reporter14 on
The same people complaining about others supposedly getting free gaffs…
Irish201h on
The average mortgage payment is 30% of income so council tenants still have it really good! No sympathy!
WolfetoneRebel on
It will in me hole
sureyouknowurself on
> rent people will be expected to pay being calculated on the basis of their income, and what category they fall into
Fair enough.
RandomRedditor_1916 on
“They also found that just over a fifth of households benefiting from the current rental cap have an income that is over €1,000 per week. ”
Madness. The poor should be protected but it is rediculous to expect the Government to foot the bill when there are those who can afford it.
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30 years without a review is way too long.
Also funny how the PBP guy is complaining about a 3% increase to 18% but the PBP manifesto says 25% of income should be rent.
>On average this will likely see an extra fiver taken off council house tenants a week, that is a lot of money for someone who is on the basic €240 per week rate of social benefit.
Its quiet ironic that the first thing he mentions is people on social welfare, when the same person would be giving out about the presumption that everyone in council houses is on the dole.
“The poorest” are absolutely not people handed a free gaf that they have to pay a measly 15% of their NET income for ONE occupier to live in and maintain. Also loving the quote about the increase of a whopping fiver for those on social welfare – we’re at full employment, hon off and get a job ffs.
Those of us stuck in the rental trap, unable to save to buy while also being ineligible for social housing are in a worse situation than those that have walked into a lifelong tenure maintained by the local council.
The poorest are not DCC tenants. Walk past any block of social housing in the north inner city and you’ll see Beamers, Audis and Range Rovers in all the car parks.
The poorest are in crowded and cold private tenancies, emergency accommodation or on the footpaths. Their ma’s box rooms if they’re lucky.
… try renting in the private sector – it’s a nightmare – try buying a home and again, a nightmare – my sympathies are low tbh – ye are very lucky that society contributes so heavily to look after others ….
Not reflecting reality at all.
Market rates for rent are almost 50-60% for non-social housing, giving 15% for social housing is a joke.
Additionally standards for social housing have gone through the roof, costs to outfit and maintain are far higher than they were 30 years ago. Can’t let people keep riding the system.
The fact is that if you have social housing and bother to scratch yourself working you have a very high quality of life in Dublin, and it just isn’t equitable with those that work hard to afford private rentals.
Get the violins out…
The vast majority of new developments in around the city are being bought/developed by AHBs or DCC themselves, have a look at page 11/12 of the linked below.
Some cracking developments that received planning permission for BTR now being bought for social housing. Notably the developments in Glasnevin, I’d be interested to see what the per unit costs are for them.
Value for money clearly doesn’t matter for the State. Throwing money around whilst widening the divide between those that contribute and those that don’t.
https://dublin.moderngov.co.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=50026
An extra €5 a week for accomodation. Pittance. And that’s €5 from the money the taxpayer gives them to sit on their arse and watch TV all day. They call these areas “underprivileged”. Sounds like a pretty privileged existence and attitude for me. Contribute nothing to society but demand everything from society. I don’t know why our politics seems to be dominated by pandering to the permanent welfare class who generally couldn’t be arsed voting anyway.
It’s so hard to sell people in social housing as the victims when it’s really people in private rental agreements who are the worst off in Ireland.
Seems like this is just another way to get people punching down again.
How dare those jobless people have to pay less rent than me etc etc.
Don’t be blinded by it, look at the policymakers who made the policies if you want to see the cause of the problem.
The same people complaining about others supposedly getting free gaffs…
The average mortgage payment is 30% of income so council tenants still have it really good! No sympathy!
It will in me hole
> rent people will be expected to pay being calculated on the basis of their income, and what category they fall into
Fair enough.
“They also found that just over a fifth of households benefiting from the current rental cap have an income that is over €1,000 per week. ”
Madness. The poor should be protected but it is rediculous to expect the Government to foot the bill when there are those who can afford it.
Also 1996 is way too long.