Does anyone go to the pub anymore? Like casually, nipping in for a quick pint.
Twenty years ago that was something people did without thinking. Now it’s like, “can I afford a pint in the pub”?
You hear people say, “why aren’t young people going out anymore?” Well, because the burger and pint that used to be affordable is now “special treat” price.
It’s not Labour’s fault, though.
Ajax_Trees_Again on
Can’t wait till there’s nothing left but HMOs, American coffee chains and dodgy money laundering high street shops.
Everyone will be isolated and ill socialised but the line on the graph would have went up so it’s all worth it
ResponsiblePatient72 on
Ahead of the budget is she just soft releasing every tax she can think of to the press to see which one goes down the best?
0ttoChriek on
If Labour truly want a growth economy, they’re going to have to look at ways of actually stimulating spending, rather than just raising duties and taxes.
The fiscal rules that the Treasury sticks to are crippling any chances of this country actually getting back on its feet, and Labour don’t seem to have any interest in rocking the boat.
Professional-Pin147 on
Here’s hoping all these doom-mongering articles are the government equivalent of a student telling their parents they’ve knocked up their girlfriend to soften the blow of receiving poor grades.
Lo_jak on
This would be like taking the pub industry out back and firing one final shotgun blast into it’s face…….. then we can wait until all the pubs are gone and everyone only drinks at home, and thats when we introduce a drinking at home tax!!! /s
callsignhotdog on
You know most budget speculation articles will at least claim they have an inside source, this one doesn’t even have that.
If a news outlet says it “understands” something, then its a rumour so tenuous that they can’t even claim to have a source.
StGuthlac2025 on
Drop the duty in pubs. Put it waaaay up in whats sold in supermarkets
jxg995 on
I feel like a pint should be about £3 but in reality its at least twice that
Mammoth_Park7184 on
Pointless news story. All taxes are considered. It’s a budget.
jodrellbank_pants on
Its already on its knees, not going to take much, you can buy a pub near me for 75k, needs half a million refurbishment paid for by the brewery as a loan and you can only buy their beers.
Fortree_Lover on
Like the gambling industry pubs can do a lot of harm for alcoholics and binge drinkers.
Confident_Many5900 on
we really need to stop giving this silly pseudo budget speculation articles any views…
SableSnail on
‘Real Ale’ brewed in the UK and sold in a pub should have zero tax, it’s a national tradition that is already dying out.
coop0228 on
24 bottles of Budweiser is currently £14 in Asda.
1 bottle of Budweiser in Wetherspoons £3.80 or 2 bottles for £6.40.
People don’t go out anymore because it’s daylight robbery.
We are losing a very British institution
Important_Ruin on
Countries finances are fucked nobody wants to pay more to receive the servives we expect (services which have been decimated by austerity and need extra funding after 14 years of chronic underfunding, all while borrowing still increased)
Nobody wants to pay more tax and nobody wants their benefits cut (see WFA) however disabled are an easy target because nobody cares about most vulnerable in society.
Literally nothing works thanks to 14 years of austerity.
Pubs have been killed due to costs spiralling and peoples wages being squeezed, duty is increased every year by every government.
When I first started going to pub it was £3 a pint or maybe less (2015), its now £4.70 for that pint, due to increases in duty and increases of costs in brewing and increases in costs of running a pub.
esctaticly on
pubs are already killed. every time i go out in my town on a friday or Saturday night the pubs are empty.
lcmfe on
Loads of my friends have ditched the pubs recently and started going to community centres as the drinks are loads cheaper
Weird-Statistician on
Raise it on supermarket booze by all means but please try to support pubs for once in your life. They are community hubs, provide jobs, allow people to socialise and enjoy themselves and are a traditional part of British life. Is the last one the real reason that the government don’t give a shit about them?
Thatsnotwotisaid on
And who consumes the most alcohol? White people , more taxes for those who don’t vote labour
FrustratedPCBuild on
Tax on beer for normal people, no tax on private jet fuel.
Haliucinogenas1 on
Uk could just fully legalize marijuana, tax it, control its sales and profit from it. But it’s just my opinion and a taxpayers opinion doesn’t matter in our democracy
redditbattles on
I’m not going exactly happy with the decisions being made, but it must be a fucking hell of a job being chancellor, when you’ve got the media breathing down your neck constantly, looking for any crumb of your plans so it can be torn apart and shredded.
wkavinsky on
Why not simply increase it in supermarkets, rather than in pubs.
It’s a much larger market, so a small increase there will raise far more funds.
And it makes no sense that I can buy 6 cans of lager for the same price as a pint of the same thing in a pub.
limeflavoured on
It would make more sense to raise duty solely on off sales, to equalise the difference in price between pubs and supermarkets.
pajamakitten on
People like Farage because they think he would be someone to have a pint down the pub with. Labour going after pubs is playing into his supporters hands perfectly. Going after a staple of British culture is going to backfire spectacularly and Farage will be able to capitalise on it by promising to revive the pub industry. Labour are doing all they can to ensure they do not get re-elected.
Professional-Bat4134 on
Id love to know the impact social decline will have on the overall economy in time.
Longjumping_Nail_486 on
Tax the Corporations/International Tax Avoidance Mafia!!
Cheeky_bum_sex on
Great so small business like myself will suffer and the large companies like weatherspoons ect will just keep buying up our freeholds
Sad state of the pub industry right now from the inside out 🙁
neo101b on
I guess the hike is there, except for the house of lords.
Its going to be the cheapest pub in 1000 miles.
HaggisPope on
The probably should’ve broken their manifesto promise in the first budget. “We discovered a black hole we didn’t anticipate, therefore we need to go hard now to try and fix this destroyed country”
TheBlakeOfUs on
It’s not the booze duties it’s that cost of living has spiralled.
In the 90s a single person could afford rent, a car and to get pissed in the pub every night.
Now rent is through the roof. Mince beef costs a tenner and your 1.2l car is shit.
Wisegoat on
We’re running out of third spaces. The pub is the perfect place for a meal, a drink or two, to watch some sport or just have a chat with your mates. Cafes and restaurants don’t really replace them, and the weather in this country doesn’t lend well to outdoor spaces during winter.
I’m honestly despairing. Labour are making the UK even more heavily taxed, and then pricing people out of what little cash they have left to see friends at a pub.
If the Tories had a talented new leader (probably without bring in govt previously) they’d have the easiest route to regaining power in 4 years.
Beer-Cave-Dweller on
This must be the hundredth article on what Rachel Reeves may or may not do.
Our media really has gone into overdrive with politics since Brexit, especially with their ‘sources’ or ‘an insider has told (whatever you’re reading)’. Clickbait bollocks.
Saltypeon on
If we could work out how to tax press speculation we could clear the national debt!
completefuckweasel on
Governments advocate care in the community but take steps like this to undermine those communities
Ok-Commission-7825 on
They really are desperate not to get a second term, aren’t they?
Pubs should get tax breaks so that when people drink, they aren’t doing it alone at home with cheap corner shop booze.
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Does anyone go to the pub anymore? Like casually, nipping in for a quick pint.
Twenty years ago that was something people did without thinking. Now it’s like, “can I afford a pint in the pub”?
You hear people say, “why aren’t young people going out anymore?” Well, because the burger and pint that used to be affordable is now “special treat” price.
It’s not Labour’s fault, though.
Can’t wait till there’s nothing left but HMOs, American coffee chains and dodgy money laundering high street shops.
Everyone will be isolated and ill socialised but the line on the graph would have went up so it’s all worth it
Ahead of the budget is she just soft releasing every tax she can think of to the press to see which one goes down the best?
If Labour truly want a growth economy, they’re going to have to look at ways of actually stimulating spending, rather than just raising duties and taxes.
The fiscal rules that the Treasury sticks to are crippling any chances of this country actually getting back on its feet, and Labour don’t seem to have any interest in rocking the boat.
Here’s hoping all these doom-mongering articles are the government equivalent of a student telling their parents they’ve knocked up their girlfriend to soften the blow of receiving poor grades.
This would be like taking the pub industry out back and firing one final shotgun blast into it’s face…….. then we can wait until all the pubs are gone and everyone only drinks at home, and thats when we introduce a drinking at home tax!!! /s
You know most budget speculation articles will at least claim they have an inside source, this one doesn’t even have that.
>LBC understands the [Chancellor](https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/labour/rachel-reeves/) is looking at a second year of RPI inflationary rise in duties, which senior figures fear would “kill the industry”.
If a news outlet says it “understands” something, then its a rumour so tenuous that they can’t even claim to have a source.
Drop the duty in pubs. Put it waaaay up in whats sold in supermarkets
I feel like a pint should be about £3 but in reality its at least twice that
Pointless news story. All taxes are considered. It’s a budget.
Its already on its knees, not going to take much, you can buy a pub near me for 75k, needs half a million refurbishment paid for by the brewery as a loan and you can only buy their beers.
Like the gambling industry pubs can do a lot of harm for alcoholics and binge drinkers.
we really need to stop giving this silly pseudo budget speculation articles any views…
‘Real Ale’ brewed in the UK and sold in a pub should have zero tax, it’s a national tradition that is already dying out.
24 bottles of Budweiser is currently £14 in Asda.
1 bottle of Budweiser in Wetherspoons £3.80 or 2 bottles for £6.40.
People don’t go out anymore because it’s daylight robbery.
We are losing a very British institution
Countries finances are fucked nobody wants to pay more to receive the servives we expect (services which have been decimated by austerity and need extra funding after 14 years of chronic underfunding, all while borrowing still increased)
Nobody wants to pay more tax and nobody wants their benefits cut (see WFA) however disabled are an easy target because nobody cares about most vulnerable in society.
Literally nothing works thanks to 14 years of austerity.
Pubs have been killed due to costs spiralling and peoples wages being squeezed, duty is increased every year by every government.
When I first started going to pub it was £3 a pint or maybe less (2015), its now £4.70 for that pint, due to increases in duty and increases of costs in brewing and increases in costs of running a pub.
pubs are already killed. every time i go out in my town on a friday or Saturday night the pubs are empty.
Loads of my friends have ditched the pubs recently and started going to community centres as the drinks are loads cheaper
Raise it on supermarket booze by all means but please try to support pubs for once in your life. They are community hubs, provide jobs, allow people to socialise and enjoy themselves and are a traditional part of British life. Is the last one the real reason that the government don’t give a shit about them?
And who consumes the most alcohol? White people , more taxes for those who don’t vote labour
Tax on beer for normal people, no tax on private jet fuel.
Uk could just fully legalize marijuana, tax it, control its sales and profit from it. But it’s just my opinion and a taxpayers opinion doesn’t matter in our democracy
I’m not going exactly happy with the decisions being made, but it must be a fucking hell of a job being chancellor, when you’ve got the media breathing down your neck constantly, looking for any crumb of your plans so it can be torn apart and shredded.
Why not simply increase it in supermarkets, rather than in pubs.
It’s a much larger market, so a small increase there will raise far more funds.
And it makes no sense that I can buy 6 cans of lager for the same price as a pint of the same thing in a pub.
It would make more sense to raise duty solely on off sales, to equalise the difference in price between pubs and supermarkets.
People like Farage because they think he would be someone to have a pint down the pub with. Labour going after pubs is playing into his supporters hands perfectly. Going after a staple of British culture is going to backfire spectacularly and Farage will be able to capitalise on it by promising to revive the pub industry. Labour are doing all they can to ensure they do not get re-elected.
Id love to know the impact social decline will have on the overall economy in time.
Tax the Corporations/International Tax Avoidance Mafia!!
Great so small business like myself will suffer and the large companies like weatherspoons ect will just keep buying up our freeholds
Sad state of the pub industry right now from the inside out 🙁
I guess the hike is there, except for the house of lords.
Its going to be the cheapest pub in 1000 miles.
The probably should’ve broken their manifesto promise in the first budget. “We discovered a black hole we didn’t anticipate, therefore we need to go hard now to try and fix this destroyed country”
It’s not the booze duties it’s that cost of living has spiralled.
In the 90s a single person could afford rent, a car and to get pissed in the pub every night.
Now rent is through the roof. Mince beef costs a tenner and your 1.2l car is shit.
We’re running out of third spaces. The pub is the perfect place for a meal, a drink or two, to watch some sport or just have a chat with your mates. Cafes and restaurants don’t really replace them, and the weather in this country doesn’t lend well to outdoor spaces during winter.
I’m honestly despairing. Labour are making the UK even more heavily taxed, and then pricing people out of what little cash they have left to see friends at a pub.
If the Tories had a talented new leader (probably without bring in govt previously) they’d have the easiest route to regaining power in 4 years.
This must be the hundredth article on what Rachel Reeves may or may not do.
Our media really has gone into overdrive with politics since Brexit, especially with their ‘sources’ or ‘an insider has told (whatever you’re reading)’. Clickbait bollocks.
If we could work out how to tax press speculation we could clear the national debt!
Governments advocate care in the community but take steps like this to undermine those communities
They really are desperate not to get a second term, aren’t they?
Pubs should get tax breaks so that when people drink, they aren’t doing it alone at home with cheap corner shop booze.