Ora legale tutto l’anno, l’Italia avvia il processo: raccolte 352mila firme per renderla permanente

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    1. Massimo25ore on

      A cognitive enquiry with the aim of arriving at a bill to get permanent daylight saving time, and over 350 thousand signatures deposited by citizens to this effect.

      Appointment tomorrow at the Chamber of Deputies promoted by the Italian Society of Environmental Medicine (Sima), Consumerism Non-profit, and the deputy Andrea Barabotti (Lega), with the aim of starting a parliamentary procedure to say goodbye to daylight saving time in our country, adopting daylight saving time all year round.

      By 30 June 2026, if approved, this will lead to a legislative proposal on permanent daylight saving time.

      The stages of the route

      In 2018, the promoters explain in a note, “the European Commission had launched a public consultation in which 4.6 million European citizens participated: 84% were in favour of abolishing the time change.

      In 2019, the European Parliament approved a proposal for a directive to leave the individual states the freedom of choice, but the issue has remained unresolved’.

      The expected savings

      “From 2004 to 2025 daylight saving time has led to bill savings totalling 2.3 billion euros, equal to lower energy consumption of over 12 billion kWh (Terna data), and has reduced CO2 emissions into the atmosphere between 160,000 and 200.000 tonnes less per year, equal to the amount absorbed by planting 2 to 6 million new trees,” Sima and Consumerism point out.

      “It is estimated that maintaining summer hours all year round could generate annual savings of around 720 million kWh, with benefits in the bill of 180 million euros.

      Positive effects also include an increase in consumption in the retail and catering sectors, an extension of the tourist season, and an improvement in public safety, without forgetting the benefits on the health front, considering that the changeover to summer time alters the circadian rhythmicity”.

    2. Generic_Person_3833 on

      3/4 of the signatures coming from south Tyrol, aren’t they?

      Italy will not generate a time zone gap to the rest of the union. That’s already the reason why the last European ideas didn’t work.

    3. Sigh… DST isn’t astronomical time. Just adopt the “winter” time all year around already and add more timezones where it matters.

    4. Independent_Pitch598 on

      Yes, let’s stop changing the time each year.

      I don’t care what time will be selected let’s just stop changing it!

    5. ProtoplanetaryNebula on

      Great idea !!! No more clocks going back in winter making us all depressed

    6. Nono6768 on

      Great idea, but what time do we keep? Wasn’t the problem that Northern Europe preferred winter time?

      Also, when do we solve the problem of timezones? It makes no sense that Santiago de Compostela and Warsaw are in the same timezone

    7. trollsmurf on

      Why not use normal time (what’s currently called winter time)? It worked for so many years before.

    8. I’m positively surprised.

      Sunrise/Sunset 

      Oslo: 08:22/15:44
      Stockholm: 07:49/15:18
      Rome: 07:03/16:47

      In Scandinavia we have now entered the season when you go to work in the dark and come home in the dark.

      The south of Europe has more than 2 hours more of sunlight. It is understandable that 1 hour back and forth doesn’t matter much 

    9. VigorousElk on

      I don’t understand why this is such an issue for people. I doesn’t matter much either way. Twice a year we’re inundated with articles and Reddit posts by people claiming that adding or subtracting a single hour turns them into zombies for weeks and practically amounts to a violation of their human rights – what on earth is wrong with those people? How fragile are you?!

    10. hype_irion on

      I don’t care anymore. Either pick winter time or summer time and stick with it. The change at the end of October and the fact that out of the blue it’s suddenly dark outside by 5 is absolutely atrocious.

    11. Loopbloc on

      Can they just come to work earlier if they like summer time? Finish earlier and beat the traffic 🚦

    12. ExtremeOccident on

      325k doesn’t seem like an awful lot on a population of 59 million.

    13. I just hope we eventually go to summer time all year not winter time, id rather have a bit more sunlight after work, i dont care whats in morning, morning is gonna be worse no matter if there is sun or not

    14. Baba_NO_Riley on

      Right…so… at 8 o’clock in the morning during winter it will be dark ( if they keep summer time),.. who cares..but rise and shine at 4 a.m. in June.

      And if they keep GMT +1 no more longer summer time days – sunset before 8 o’clock..

    15. NocturneFogg on

      I can see Ireland just ignoring this unless the UK changes too. Having two time zones on the island would be a rather annoying pain in the rear for a lot of people.

      This same debate comes up ever year, and nobody can conclude which is better. If we ditch DST with move to permanent summer time, which is often suggested here, parts of the northwest of the country end up with sunrise after 9:00am in winter.

      This stuff matters much less in southern Europe and also depends how far off your natural time zone you actually are too.

    16. amineahd on

      I read the same news in Germany every year around this time and every year its the same bla bla

    17. Minesweep2020 on

      Everyone realizes you don’t “save” daylight no matter which way you turn your clock, right? We get the same amount of light from the sun no matter what. It is only the semantics of how we choose to enumerate the hours. Sunrise, sunset and noon (meridian) literally refer to movements of the sun. We should keep noon somewhere close to 12 (depending on where within the time zone you are), i.e. winter time.

    18. stumu415 on

      In China we don’t have this daylight saving nonsense. China doesn’t even have different time zones. Like the US has 9 different time zones for a country similar size. Nuts.
      Just one time all the time.

    19. They also need to get rid of the single timezone for this to work. Otherwise it will just run into the same issues as last time and fail there.

    20. We can get a mother loving chat control like that but not this ?

    21. Thin-Perspective-615 on

      I prefer the winter time in summer. I have smal children and they have to go to sleep when you finaly can get out od the house do to heat. And because of work i have to go to sleep 9.30 so the extra hour is not for me.

    22. ShadowFluffy on

      One can hope someday the same could be considered in New Zealand, each year I look forward to DST so much.

    23. I would rather do winter time all year around as that’s actually closer to solar time.

    24. g_spaitz on

      I was on the fence for an opinion on DST until I saw a very clear graph (wonder where it is though) of hours of sunlight and hours of day, and I’m now convinced it totally makes sense instead. It’s a reasonable try to make the most use of daylight hours.

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