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  1. TheChrisD on

    But they work at Tiktok, surely they should practice what they preach and just distract their children with an endless flow of low-effort short-form vertical video content while they commute, no?

  2. Humble_Ostrich_4610 on

    This is an obvious way to save redundancy money, extremely profitable tech companies have found a very cost effective loophole that needs to be shut down. 

  3. Accomplished-Try-658 on

    I’m amused they work for TikTok – which plays a huge role in messing up kids all over the world and then also complain about being forced into being bad parents.

  4. Available-Talk-7161 on

    Pre covid, the majority of people who wfh now whether fully or partially, worked in the office.

    Then covid happened – the only way for these businesses to remain operational was to let people work from home.

    Then covid went away (largely) and a lot of employers want staff back in offices for a variety of reasons. The reasons themselves don’t overly matter – if your contract says the place of work is an office, thats where the place of work is.

    Some people dont want to return to the office as they’re not living where they once did, others don’t want the commute and associated expense, others don’t want the childcare costs, others just want a better work life balance.

    The majority of people do whats required to perhaps justify wfh at least partially. However there’s a cohort of workers that take the absolute piss. I’m sure each of us can recount a recent memory of being on a call and either a screaming creche/pre school kid is wailing or a primary school aged child wanders past the screen. That still happens. Working from home doesn’t mean save on creche/child minding fees and mind them yourself.

    Similarly, pre covid, the vast majority of people working in Dublin lived within a relatively comfortable commute distance. Now, i have colleagues living in Cork, Clare, Limerick, Carlow, Galway, Sligo, Monaghan, Cavan who are faced with a horrible commute on the 10 days a month they need to come to office. They claim better work life balance, sure it is, you live elsewhere for cheaper whilst bringing in your Dublin wage. Sign me up. There’s talk about “renegotiating” contracts for those who don’t want to make the commute from their new base. I’ve heard anywhere from 20-40% haircuts to change to a fully remote contract.

    Were all people before covid absent parents? Or is being an “absent parent” the most newsworthy headline to make it get traction?

  5. Natural-Ad773 on

    I never realised all the people who work with their hands are absent parents.

    News to me.

  6. Substantial_Rope8225 on

    I know I’ll be on the unpopular end of this but if they were told this 2 months ago why didn’t they start looking for alternative roles if this wasn’t going to work for them?

    A company can do whatever they want when it comes to office/hybrid/remote. Pre 2020 we were all in offices 5 days a week, I’m not saying that was right or wrong but everyone managed to make it work then.

    Your commute is not your company’s problem, you decided to live 2 hours away and still work in Dublin.

    Again, I know I’ll be in the minority on this but maybe it’s because I don’t have kids 🤷‍♀️ also interesting to note that those who have spoken out in the article are mothers, no word from the dads 😂 (I’m joking, I’m sure there’s men who have signed the petition too).

    In relation to the neurodivergent employee, that’s more complex… having gone through a process similarly in an old job (as the mean HR person at the table) there’s more to it than a simple yes or no, but I hope he gets sorted

  7. RogueTurtle2 on

    If people are productive and work well as a team, why not keep people remote if they wish, and save costs by having a small office? I don’t understand it but I have a feeling it has something to do with office landlords.

  8. Jacabusmagnus on

    Of all the things people are willing to boycott companies for having an inflexible WFH policy that screws workers should be right up there as a justification in most people’s mind to boycott.

  9. SoloWingPixy88 on

    Did interview with Amazon recently. The role was office bound with no WFH which was fine ish with me however I thought it was funny during the 5 interviews that 5 of the 7 people were all WFH while doing the interviews.

    >I spend a total of four hours commuting to and from the office on a normal day. It involves one hour on the motorway, plus an hour on public transport. 

    Assuming a park and ride location? Where does she live, seems a crazy distance she travels.

  10. RocketRaccoon9 on

    I’ve had people argue that they can’t return to full time back to the office because “My dog will get lonely at home”

  11. Complex_Hunter35 on

    When we introduced the right to request remote working we never copper fastened it with actually giving the right actually work at home. Tik Tok never thought that WFH is very family friendly. I would wager there is no union in the place either .Seeing the comments asking why don’t they move elsewhere, there are no other fuckin jobs elsewhere.

  12. GarthODarth on

    There should be some restriction on this – like, if you’ve employed someone who wfh in Longford for a couple years, you shouldn’t be able to suddenly demand they travel to Dublin 5 days a week. That’s blatantly unreasonable, and especially in a housing crisis. It’d take me a year to sort that out, and it does disproportionately affect parents who are also dealing with the crisis in childcare.

    It’s not easy to just move house. And it’s not easy to find new childcare. 2 months is not enough runway.

  13. Greedy-Explorer-4709 on

    Did they sign contracts stating the office was their place of work? If so, unfortunately, these employee’s don’t really have a leg to stand on?

    I’m sure I will be downvoted and called a bootlicker but if you’re happy to sign a contract specifying you’re based in the office it is not really your call to make when the return to office email comes.

    Plenty of employers are accommodating hybrid arrangements, which is great for those people, but it is unreasonable to expect every employer to make those concessions.

  14. Connor123x on

    So they are kind of admitting that they will be not be fully engage with work when their kids are at home.

  15. Real_Math_2483 on

    While I’d love to blame companies for this sort of degradation of the WFH practices that have been in place since Covid. I think the real blame’s lies with the government as they should’ve set out a more employee focused framework rather than the toothless employer friendly one they put in place. No one can be surprised that companies are doing this in every sector (including my own job). The fact that no WFH case brought to the WRC to date has had a favourable ruling for the employee says it all really.

  16. Junior-Protection-26 on

    The heart bleeds for those poor TikTok workers. Best of luck to the valiant 200.

    Rest assured that all the Irish workers who commute hours daily to offices/schools the country wide are hoping they win their right to sit at home in their jocks, drinking cups of tea and filtering out shit content for the M50 faithful. Such noble intent.

  17. SoftDrinkReddit on

    Maybe this is a hot take, but if it is possible to do your job at home, you should be not only allowed to do that but encouraged to do so to help ease traffic the work tiktok staff do can fully be done at home and should be done at home

  18. pablo8itall on

    This is shite for a number of reasons. There’s a fair middle ground to be found for staff to work hybrid.

    But bringing everyone into the city is just a complete pain. the traffic, the public transport, can’t handle it.

    The impact on peoples lives, kids, the climate, all shite.

    Hybrid and flexible working has to have strong safe guards in law.

  19. Otherwise-Winner9643 on

    Yep, we all thought covid would change the nature of remote working, but it didn’t last.

    I considered moving out of Dublin myself, but figured this could well happen, despite my company promising complete flexibility and even sending out a press release to the same effect.

    I have been around long enough to know that anything not in your contract can be changed anytime. If an employer wouldn’t change your contract to make it remote, there was a reason for that. “Trust me” is meaningless if/when your current manager moves on.

    RTO is a global trend.

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