Not going to happen and then we’ll cry about “evil UK” again because many in the EU can’t admit that Brexit has harmed both sides pretty much equally and the UK isn’t desperate to rejoin.
But we’ll sleep on our laurels and get nothing done because pragmatism is a dirty word nowadays.
WhatsRatingsPrecious on
If you want in on the economic benefits, you pays your ticket.
BcDownes on
Pay just so the money can end up in Hungary or Slovakia? Pass
StrangeDeal8252 on
In this particular case, seems fair enough.
Still, inb4 300+ comments because it’s /r/europe’s favourite topic.
DataGOGO on
Brussels can get fucked.
Shot-Winter-6559 on
Going to a hard sell considering they have just imposed tariffs on Norway and Iceland when the agreement they are part of prohibits it.
lAljax on
>The text did not spell out that the UK should pay for access – but since then, a large majority of EU member states have decided this should be the case. Several countries, including Belgium and Germany, have warned against allowing the UK to “cherrypick” the best bits of the European single market without abiding by common rules.
It should be an easy decision. If the benefits outweighs the costs, close the deal. Europe should know how much to charge.
wgszpieg on
There’s no point in making any deals, since Farage will scrap it all anyway
tree_boom on
Seems more or less reasonable, although the title is bullshit. They’re not paying “for closer ties” but to be able to access benefits of the single market
bigbadbob85 on
As with everything, yes if it’s going to be a net benefit. No if not.
Beyllionaire on
The UK shouldn’t be allowed to cherry pick what it wants from the EU, especially if it’s more advantageous to the UK than it is to the EU.
MakoSmiler on
Yeh no thanks
CharmingTurnover8937 on
No thanks.
dustofdeath on
If you want the benefits of the union, you need to contribute.
CutsAPromo on
I wanna rejoin the EU but they need to make it worthwhile considering the UK was a net contributor
Narrow-Housing-4162 on
It’s funny that Europe moans at the way US treats the EU than proceeds to treat the UK way worse.
krazydude22 on
EU seem to be helping Reform by making these demands…
win_some_lose_most1y on
Didn’t they unconfirm this just days ago? Which is it?
Low_Map4314 on
So, this relationship reset is dead. Move on. No one’s paying into this, it’s just a negotiation ploy.
Mother_Candidate2555 on
I guess if you had been willing to listen and be flexible when we first asked about supporting change we may not have be in this situation. I agree the rhetoric on both sides were not helpful, but from our point of view we had put in a lot of effort and money into the EU over the decades and to be effectively blackmailed through the exit negotiations was somewhat frustrating and led to the ratcheting up of the negative press.
I don’t see the whole process as a win to be honest, I’m,not sure why you are couching it in those terms. We just wanted a different relationship with the EU. That comes with a cost to both of us I accept that, but I think those costs could be minimised by being pragmatic but I can see why the EU struggles with that as it shows others they could follow. Me could argue we have done the EU a favour now, the UK was always the one who resisted greater integration, you can move to ultimate model of a single federated state without the UK holding you back
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Nah, we are good thanks.
EU wants its cake.
Sounds like a prostitute.
No thanks
Not going to happen and then we’ll cry about “evil UK” again because many in the EU can’t admit that Brexit has harmed both sides pretty much equally and the UK isn’t desperate to rejoin.
But we’ll sleep on our laurels and get nothing done because pragmatism is a dirty word nowadays.
If you want in on the economic benefits, you pays your ticket.
Pay just so the money can end up in Hungary or Slovakia? Pass
In this particular case, seems fair enough.
Still, inb4 300+ comments because it’s /r/europe’s favourite topic.
Brussels can get fucked.
Going to a hard sell considering they have just imposed tariffs on Norway and Iceland when the agreement they are part of prohibits it.
>The text did not spell out that the UK should pay for access – but since then, a large majority of EU member states have decided this should be the case. Several countries, including Belgium and Germany, have warned against allowing the UK to “cherrypick” the best bits of the European single market without abiding by common rules.
It should be an easy decision. If the benefits outweighs the costs, close the deal. Europe should know how much to charge.
There’s no point in making any deals, since Farage will scrap it all anyway
Seems more or less reasonable, although the title is bullshit. They’re not paying “for closer ties” but to be able to access benefits of the single market
As with everything, yes if it’s going to be a net benefit. No if not.
The UK shouldn’t be allowed to cherry pick what it wants from the EU, especially if it’s more advantageous to the UK than it is to the EU.
Yeh no thanks
No thanks.
If you want the benefits of the union, you need to contribute.
I wanna rejoin the EU but they need to make it worthwhile considering the UK was a net contributor
It’s funny that Europe moans at the way US treats the EU than proceeds to treat the UK way worse.
EU seem to be helping Reform by making these demands…
Didn’t they unconfirm this just days ago? Which is it?
So, this relationship reset is dead. Move on. No one’s paying into this, it’s just a negotiation ploy.
I guess if you had been willing to listen and be flexible when we first asked about supporting change we may not have be in this situation. I agree the rhetoric on both sides were not helpful, but from our point of view we had put in a lot of effort and money into the EU over the decades and to be effectively blackmailed through the exit negotiations was somewhat frustrating and led to the ratcheting up of the negative press.
I don’t see the whole process as a win to be honest, I’m,not sure why you are couching it in those terms. We just wanted a different relationship with the EU. That comes with a cost to both of us I accept that, but I think those costs could be minimised by being pragmatic but I can see why the EU struggles with that as it shows others they could follow. Me could argue we have done the EU a favour now, the UK was always the one who resisted greater integration, you can move to ultimate model of a single federated state without the UK holding you back