Il ministro degli Interni svela il piano per creare il sistema “più controllato e selettivo” d’Europa per la migrazione permanente
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/nov/20/covid-inquiry-report-pandemic-labour-conservatives-andy-burnham-uk-politics-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with:block-691f11228f08ba9435360243#block-691f11228f08ba9435360243
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Important points:
– Benefits restricted only to British citizens, no longer allowed for ILR holders
– Those who arrived on the Health and Care visa will need to wait 15 years for ILR
– Skilled workers earning over £50k for the three years prior will get ILR in five years, those earning over £125k will get ILR in three years
– Skilled workers earning under £50k will get ILR in 10 years
– People working in the NHS will get ILR in five years
– People whose spouse or parent is British citizen, along with BNO visa holders, will continue to get ILR in five years
– The intention is that this will apply to people already in the UK but who have not yet received ILR
Well you knew it wouldn’t be long before they followed reform into targeting legal immigrants.
Have to say I like the idea of tying how long it takes to gain ILR to how much someone contributes to the UK, makes sense that we should prioritise those who benefit the country most. In fact its possible to get ILR far far faster than before now.
Also tying benefits to Citizenship, while I imagine will be controversial, seems to just make logical sense. The whole point of Citizenship is its the state saying they have an obligation to look after you.
This is an excellent start, and will go some way in bandaging the wound of mass immigration suffered by the country over the past 28 years. Things are going in the right direction, and if Labour continue this path, it at least opens up the possibilities for Labour or another party to bring in policies to increase social cohesion and stabilise the country further.
If they follow through with this without it being watered down by the hard left of the party, I’ll be voting for a Mahmood-led Labour next election unless another party runs an even stronger stance with a credible plan.
>Mahmood says ‘Boriswave’ migrants already here would have to wait 15 years before they can get settlement
Well, can’t deny it’s what people have been asking for. Huge news
>the government announced it would double the permanent settlement qualifying period for migrants to 10 years
10 years for permanent residency, not even citizenship, is crazy.
> Landmark proposals could see migrants only become eligible for benefits and social housing if they first become British citizens, rather than upon being granted settlement as is currently the case.
So they will be forced to pay for benefits they themselves have no right to claim? What counts as ‘benefits’ anyway? People always imagine someone living off the dole but what about maternity pay etc.?
It seems crazy to me that the government has decided to go after legal immigration rather than the absolute farce that is the asylum system.
Every charity overloaded with volunteer applications next week:
Loving Mahmood at the moment, that’s proper policy. Keep this up and reform won’t be required.
One concern though, if low skilled migrant workers lose their jobs, they might shy away from benefits if it affects their residency status and be channelled into the grey/black economy where they pay no taxes, and possibly end up more prone to being caught in modern slavery practices.
Look, I get it. Everyone here wants to be a good kind-hearted person and clutch their pearls about restrictions on immigration, but like it or not there has been a sea change in politics in the last few years.
Public opinion is very much against high levels of immigration and it’s crept up and up in terms of importance. This isn’t like 10 or 15 years go where fringe right parties where where a persistent thorn in the side of the main parties, a protest vote in by-elections, but no real threat. This time there is a very real chance that that f*cker Farage could lead the next government.
There is 3.5 years till the next election and this has to be turned around, which means action. People need to feel they are being listened to by the government. Simply telling them they are wrong and ignoring them isn’t working.
If Farage gets in what he will do is as nothing compared to this. We’ll end up withy a similar situation to the US with masked thugs rounding people up.
Soooo I was born here, grew up here, contributed to the economy, and can’t claim benefits? How fucking stupid 😀
These are pretty inhumane measures and it still won’t stop the Reform train because lives are still difficult and scapegoats are still needed.
Not being able to claim benefits is insane. They at least deserve unemployment, that just seems unnecessary cruel for someone who has worked, paid taxes and through no fault of their own has found themselves without a job. This will kill a lot of higher skilled immigration because without that security why on earth would you be here? Even Japan gives residents unemployment.
Stupidity.
Rather than tightening loopholes that allowed abuse of ilr it’s being made almost unaccessible.
Always going after high quality grads, entrepreneurs and spouses of very desirable workers. And discouraging them from coming here. Hurting growth and stopping UK companies attracting international talent. I know in my sector there’s a huge amount of exceptional folk who we are just ready to poach from the states and Europe, and stuff like this makes the UK just less attractive.
Whilst at the same time reform voters won’t switch to labour because of this. They’ll still see Turkish barbershops, dramatic Sun headlines and small boats.
I really do despair with labour. “Pragmatic but boring” was clearly too much to ask for, instead its just pandering to the worst of reform whilst actively harming the country.
I don’t mind this, but crazy now same policies if proposed by tories few years back would absolutely be decried as evil/racist etc. Remember when they bumped up income thresholds for the visas. The outcry was unbelievable.
while i agree with the general idea, it is a bit strange to measure the contribution with salary only (except for the nhs). i don’t see why a caffe worker would need to be in the uk over three times as long as someone in finance making sure the rich get richer. (which one is contributing to regular britons’ lives more?)
i moved to the uk from the czech republic in 2013 to do my masters (on top of which i worked 3 years in a sainsburys bakery), moved to oxford for my phd (while working as a tutor) and then stayed as a postdoc for 3 years and now the job market situation is so dire i have not been able to find a job in over half a year. i am lucky to get support from uc until i find a job. i moved to the uk when i was 18 meaning i never had a job back home, so i can’t claim any benefits there.
i also can’t afford to pay for citizenship, as much as i would love to be a uk citizen because don’t really feel much connection to the czech republic.
this would leave me without any means to support myself, and homeless.
don’t want to change any minds, just wanted to share my story.
thanks for reading. x
Skilled workers under 50k have to wait 10 years is a bit harsh.
This is pretty double the median wage and I can imagine they dont want to subsidise the lazy ones either.
Im not sure its right to tax them but restrict the services we collect the taxes for.
I feel like this is hitting legit, contributing immigrants when their the coming here to do the work.
Another sensible change. She did really well in the commons imo as well. A future prime minister maybe? I say this as a current reform supporter. I can’t believe this is coming from a labour government tbh.
“We think immigrants aren’t integrating into society, so, to solve this problem, we’re going to make it even more difficult for immigrants to integrate into society.” Farcical, really.
They are doing all this but the polls will still go Lab -2 Ref +1 Gre +1 next week