As I noted in another post on this vile expression of the Russians’ *congenital* self-entitlement:
This is classic but eminently Russian trash with the overpowering use of the passive voice (as if the invasion of Ukraine were on par with a natural disaster that’d therefore absolve the oh-so-victimized Russians of wrongdoing) and no mention of an unconditional requirement for the Russians to return every Ukrainian POW and Ukrainian kid whom they’ve abducted.
Instead, the Russians have muddied the waters by stating via section 24 that a “humanitarian commission will be established to resolve outstanding issues”. Note again the passive voice and the shoehorning of this step to qualify and equivocate over the liberation of every Ukrainian whom the Russians have gleefully imprisoned and abducted.
Striking to is the sub-point under section 9 in which the Ukrainians would invalidate a security guarantee if they were to launch a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg.
This indirectly underscores how the self-absorbed Westernized “Ііbеrаlѕ” of Russia, so beloved by bleeding-heart Westerners and Russophiles, have been vital in their privileged perch of Russia’s only metropolises to upholding the unforgivable Russian social contract that enables the invasion and occupation of Ukraine.
Those obnoxious ordinary Russian urbanites with their infantile learned helplessness and smart-aѕѕed civic apathy are the living prerequisites for the ruling class to pillage the country and sign off on foreign invasions and assorted meddling around the world.
Thechosunwon on
Absolutely disgusting. Full amnesty for Russia, some of their frozen funds returned, and reintegration into the global economy. And Trump hopes to get a Nobel prize with this toilet paper roll of a plan? Europe needs to stop dragging their feet, this is unacceptable. The US is compromised and cannot be trusted.
AdMoist5134 on
let’s see what the world looks like tomorrow – he just on that time of the month again, he’ll get off it
darthpudge on
This makes me feel sick.
chaosatdawn on
This is the most disgusting shit I’ve ever read.
Flaky_Bet_1432 on
Nice surrender to Russia plan. Who is gonna agree with this shit?
andrusbaun on
I think that Zelenski won’t sign it… because signing it will end up with military taking the power in Ukraine.
Trump clearly wants to detach US from this war.
TOPGENERAL_55 on
This deal is mostly favored towards Russia. Ridiculous
someloops on
So russia would get away without any consequence and with stolen Ukrainian land and people, while Ukraine will have to promise to never join NATO, limit its military to 600k people, NATO won’t be capable of deploying troops to Ukraine and russia will be “reintegrated” into the global economy, so that it can prepare to restart the war later. What kind of bullshit is this? Hopefully Ukraine and Zelensky don’t agree to this shit.
Plantain6981 on
A desperate Putin – and perhaps even more desperate Trump – both need this. Eff’em.
Equivalent_Hand1549 on
This is a fucking backstabbing.
IndustrialPuppetTwo on
Why is it written in English and not its original language, Ruzzian?
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Blufferflies on
This is a bad deal to have. I’m not happy with a deal that clearly skewed towards Russia. The timeline is also ridiculous. Unfortunately, Ukraine will risk losing US as its partner. Ukraine may have to figure out a way to win this fight without relying on the US.
No_Assignment_2365 on
Site is down.
fuzzylogical4n6 on
“If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response), all global sanctions will be restored and recognition of new territories will be revoked”.
What is this exception? It reads like Ruzzia can invade again if it calls it something other than an invasion and it won’t have consequences… again?
There is not a single point in this entire document that favours Ukraine.
Due-Dot6450 on
Ukraine just need to wait until Trump’s impeached and removed from office. It might be sooner than we think. Just wait it over.
wailingsixnames on
So gross of the us to go along with this bullshit
No-Ambition-6822 on
Basically, sorry wrong word, LITERALLY forces Ukraine and EU to pay for reparations and for USA and Russia to plunder the resources of Ukraine and the EU funds…
Also lets Russia to enact another 3 day special operation, without revoking the treaty!
FaderJockey2600 on
28 points: here’s a better plan in 9:
1. All parties involved in the conflict agree to an immediate, unconditional and full cessation of any and all hostilities, including (but not limited to) attacks on civilian, military, energy and infrastructure targets.
2. All parties fully withdraw from any territory occupied or illegally annexed since Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union.
3. Parties ensures a safe, demined transfer of all infrastructure and energy facilities (including, but not limited to the ZNPP) to Ukraine under supervision of IAEA and independent expertise.
4. All parties to the conflict return all POW’s, displaced citizens and kidnapped children. This includes forced displacement, to be judged by independent third party, to other nations.
5. All parties to the conflict agree to independent assessment of the damages inflicted during the war and agree to settlement of these damages. Parties agree to the ICC being witness and judiciary in the contracts covering the payment of reparations.
6. All parties agree to full cooperation in the investigation and prosecution of potential war crimes or allegations of genocide. Parties recognize the ICC as the judiciary for the proceedings.
7. Parties agree to not pursue further expansion of borders and will respect the territorial integrity of the nations involved.
8. Parties will not engage in political interference, will not attempt governing choices in future alliances or forcing allegiance. Sovereignty of state is respected by all parties.
9. Parties will not force any form of cultural or lingual transformation upon their sovereign nation based on wishes or demands by any other party. Cultural and religious sovereignty and freedom is respected.
These terms are non-negotiable.
DaEvilGenius85 on
You know…. This really makes me think Putin might actually have a photo of trump blowing bubba.
dogoodvillain on
Fuck 47, and obviously Slava Ukraini 🇨🇦
Combdepot on
This isn’t a deal. It’s a demonstration of Trump fondling Putin’s taint.
captain-lowrider on
NO
GM_P on
I’m sick of this, what can we do to stop this huge injustice. I feel so hopeless and useless.
Zuropia on
Disgusting. Europe needs to intervene now.
NoWest2178 on
The USA used to be a grade A country, but now it’s more like the United States of Betrayal.
SmokyMo on
“As long as it takes”. Give credit to Putin where its due, man has a catastrophic invasion, loses thousands of Russians in complete quagmire, but completely derails NATO/Western support and alliances. Their biggest threat, and to China, US has completely capitulated to their narrative without firing a single shot, and while being completely dwarfed by their available resources. China is going to throw Putin a massive congratulations parade.
Bosseffs on
>c. If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response), all global sanctions will be restored and recognition of new territories will be revoked.
Cowardly, disguisting and unacceptable.
>a. A fund for investing in high-tech sectors (transport, logistics, data centres, AI).
What the fuck are they smoking? Do they really think this is of highest priority for Ukraine? (DC & AI)
>b. The US will sign a long-term economic cooperation agreement with Russia covering energy, resources, infrastructure, AI, data centres, Arctic rare-earth mining, and other corporate opportunities.
Arctic rare-earth mining…. Denmark and Greenland should be ***very concerned*** about this part.
>14. Frozen Russian assets:
>a. $100bn will be invested in US-led reconstruction projects in Ukraine.
>b. The US will receive 50% of profits from these projects.
Gotta make sure to squeeze all that they can.
>c. Europe will add another $100bn for Ukraine’s reconstruction.
The US decides when and how much Europe shall spend?
>16. Russia will legally adopt a policy of non-aggression toward Europe and Ukraine.
**LOL**
>27. The agreement will be legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by a Peace Council chaired by Donald J. Trump. Sanctions will apply to violators.
Gotta put his name in it, delusional and ego tripping.
>28. After all sides agree, the ceasefire will take effect immediately once both sides withdraw to the agreed starting lines.
Starting lines?
ygksob on
If anyone believes this capitulation will lead to a just and lasting peace, I have some ocean front property in the Sudetenland to sell you.
Inner-Detail-553 on
In short, this is setting up Russia to have massive influence in USA (almost making an integrated Russian-American klepto oligarch system), Russia gets all sanctions lifted so they can rearm without any obstacles, and then resume the war whenever (and wherever) they want
“The US will sign a long-term economic cooperation agreement with Russia covering energy, resources, infrastructure, AI, data centres, Arctic rare-earth mining, and other corporate opportunities.” Translation: **Russian oligarchs become integrated with US oligarchs**
“Remaining Russian assets will be invested in a special US–Russia investment instrument for joint projects aimed at strengthening mutual interests and long-term stability.” Translation: **Joint kleptocracy**, easy way to funnel money to bribe/pay off anyone in USA that Trump/Putin want
“If Ukraine unintentionally fires a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg, the guarantees become invalid.” Translation: **Russia will false-flag this whenever they feel ready to restart**
Haplo12345 on
> c. If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response)
lolwut?! I mean there’s a lot of ridiculous shit in here, but this one especially takes the cake. All the talk in the points about peace and de-escalation and then you include a line that literally and explicitly allows Russia to re-invade Ukraine. Like, come on, did you even try?
Russia could probably not have written a more favorable set of terms for themselves, short of “Ukraine becomes a semi-autonomous region within and part of Russia”.
Puzzled_Worth_4287 on
Putin told trump to do his bidding otherwise no more BUBBA.
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As I noted in another post on this vile expression of the Russians’ *congenital* self-entitlement:
This is classic but eminently Russian trash with the overpowering use of the passive voice (as if the invasion of Ukraine were on par with a natural disaster that’d therefore absolve the oh-so-victimized Russians of wrongdoing) and no mention of an unconditional requirement for the Russians to return every Ukrainian POW and Ukrainian kid whom they’ve abducted.
Instead, the Russians have muddied the waters by stating via section 24 that a “humanitarian commission will be established to resolve outstanding issues”. Note again the passive voice and the shoehorning of this step to qualify and equivocate over the liberation of every Ukrainian whom the Russians have gleefully imprisoned and abducted.
Striking to is the sub-point under section 9 in which the Ukrainians would invalidate a security guarantee if they were to launch a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg.
This indirectly underscores how the self-absorbed Westernized “Ііbеrаlѕ” of Russia, so beloved by bleeding-heart Westerners and Russophiles, have been vital in their privileged perch of Russia’s only metropolises to upholding the unforgivable Russian social contract that enables the invasion and occupation of Ukraine.
Those obnoxious ordinary Russian urbanites with their infantile learned helplessness and smart-aѕѕed civic apathy are the living prerequisites for the ruling class to pillage the country and sign off on foreign invasions and assorted meddling around the world.
Absolutely disgusting. Full amnesty for Russia, some of their frozen funds returned, and reintegration into the global economy. And Trump hopes to get a Nobel prize with this toilet paper roll of a plan? Europe needs to stop dragging their feet, this is unacceptable. The US is compromised and cannot be trusted.
let’s see what the world looks like tomorrow – he just on that time of the month again, he’ll get off it
This makes me feel sick.
This is the most disgusting shit I’ve ever read.
Nice surrender to Russia plan. Who is gonna agree with this shit?
I think that Zelenski won’t sign it… because signing it will end up with military taking the power in Ukraine.
Trump clearly wants to detach US from this war.
This deal is mostly favored towards Russia. Ridiculous
So russia would get away without any consequence and with stolen Ukrainian land and people, while Ukraine will have to promise to never join NATO, limit its military to 600k people, NATO won’t be capable of deploying troops to Ukraine and russia will be “reintegrated” into the global economy, so that it can prepare to restart the war later. What kind of bullshit is this? Hopefully Ukraine and Zelensky don’t agree to this shit.
A desperate Putin – and perhaps even more desperate Trump – both need this. Eff’em.
This is a fucking backstabbing.
Why is it written in English and not its original language, Ruzzian?
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This is a bad deal to have. I’m not happy with a deal that clearly skewed towards Russia. The timeline is also ridiculous. Unfortunately, Ukraine will risk losing US as its partner. Ukraine may have to figure out a way to win this fight without relying on the US.
Site is down.
“If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response), all global sanctions will be restored and recognition of new territories will be revoked”.
What is this exception? It reads like Ruzzia can invade again if it calls it something other than an invasion and it won’t have consequences… again?
There is not a single point in this entire document that favours Ukraine.
Ukraine just need to wait until Trump’s impeached and removed from office. It might be sooner than we think. Just wait it over.
So gross of the us to go along with this bullshit
Basically, sorry wrong word, LITERALLY forces Ukraine and EU to pay for reparations and for USA and Russia to plunder the resources of Ukraine and the EU funds…
Also lets Russia to enact another 3 day special operation, without revoking the treaty!
28 points: here’s a better plan in 9:
1. All parties involved in the conflict agree to an immediate, unconditional and full cessation of any and all hostilities, including (but not limited to) attacks on civilian, military, energy and infrastructure targets.
2. All parties fully withdraw from any territory occupied or illegally annexed since Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union.
3. Parties ensures a safe, demined transfer of all infrastructure and energy facilities (including, but not limited to the ZNPP) to Ukraine under supervision of IAEA and independent expertise.
4. All parties to the conflict return all POW’s, displaced citizens and kidnapped children. This includes forced displacement, to be judged by independent third party, to other nations.
5. All parties to the conflict agree to independent assessment of the damages inflicted during the war and agree to settlement of these damages. Parties agree to the ICC being witness and judiciary in the contracts covering the payment of reparations.
6. All parties agree to full cooperation in the investigation and prosecution of potential war crimes or allegations of genocide. Parties recognize the ICC as the judiciary for the proceedings.
7. Parties agree to not pursue further expansion of borders and will respect the territorial integrity of the nations involved.
8. Parties will not engage in political interference, will not attempt governing choices in future alliances or forcing allegiance. Sovereignty of state is respected by all parties.
9. Parties will not force any form of cultural or lingual transformation upon their sovereign nation based on wishes or demands by any other party. Cultural and religious sovereignty and freedom is respected.
These terms are non-negotiable.
You know…. This really makes me think Putin might actually have a photo of trump blowing bubba.
Fuck 47, and obviously Slava Ukraini 🇨🇦
This isn’t a deal. It’s a demonstration of Trump fondling Putin’s taint.
NO
I’m sick of this, what can we do to stop this huge injustice. I feel so hopeless and useless.
Disgusting. Europe needs to intervene now.
The USA used to be a grade A country, but now it’s more like the United States of Betrayal.
“As long as it takes”. Give credit to Putin where its due, man has a catastrophic invasion, loses thousands of Russians in complete quagmire, but completely derails NATO/Western support and alliances. Their biggest threat, and to China, US has completely capitulated to their narrative without firing a single shot, and while being completely dwarfed by their available resources. China is going to throw Putin a massive congratulations parade.
>c. If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response), all global sanctions will be restored and recognition of new territories will be revoked.
Cowardly, disguisting and unacceptable.
>a. A fund for investing in high-tech sectors (transport, logistics, data centres, AI).
What the fuck are they smoking? Do they really think this is of highest priority for Ukraine? (DC & AI)
>b. The US will sign a long-term economic cooperation agreement with Russia covering energy, resources, infrastructure, AI, data centres, Arctic rare-earth mining, and other corporate opportunities.
Arctic rare-earth mining…. Denmark and Greenland should be ***very concerned*** about this part.
>14. Frozen Russian assets:
>a. $100bn will be invested in US-led reconstruction projects in Ukraine.
>b. The US will receive 50% of profits from these projects.
Gotta make sure to squeeze all that they can.
>c. Europe will add another $100bn for Ukraine’s reconstruction.
The US decides when and how much Europe shall spend?
>16. Russia will legally adopt a policy of non-aggression toward Europe and Ukraine.
**LOL**
>27. The agreement will be legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by a Peace Council chaired by Donald J. Trump. Sanctions will apply to violators.
Gotta put his name in it, delusional and ego tripping.
>28. After all sides agree, the ceasefire will take effect immediately once both sides withdraw to the agreed starting lines.
Starting lines?
If anyone believes this capitulation will lead to a just and lasting peace, I have some ocean front property in the Sudetenland to sell you.
In short, this is setting up Russia to have massive influence in USA (almost making an integrated Russian-American klepto oligarch system), Russia gets all sanctions lifted so they can rearm without any obstacles, and then resume the war whenever (and wherever) they want
“The US will sign a long-term economic cooperation agreement with Russia covering energy, resources, infrastructure, AI, data centres, Arctic rare-earth mining, and other corporate opportunities.” Translation: **Russian oligarchs become integrated with US oligarchs**
“Remaining Russian assets will be invested in a special US–Russia investment instrument for joint projects aimed at strengthening mutual interests and long-term stability.” Translation: **Joint kleptocracy**, easy way to funnel money to bribe/pay off anyone in USA that Trump/Putin want
“If Ukraine unintentionally fires a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg, the guarantees become invalid.” Translation: **Russia will false-flag this whenever they feel ready to restart**
> c. If Russia invades Ukraine (except for a rapid coordinated military response)
lolwut?! I mean there’s a lot of ridiculous shit in here, but this one especially takes the cake. All the talk in the points about peace and de-escalation and then you include a line that literally and explicitly allows Russia to re-invade Ukraine. Like, come on, did you even try?
Russia could probably not have written a more favorable set of terms for themselves, short of “Ukraine becomes a semi-autonomous region within and part of Russia”.
Putin told trump to do his bidding otherwise no more BUBBA.