Balkans more progressive than the Netherlands confirmed.
sneakyjedi123 on
I have to admit, I really didn’t expect Denmark and Netherlands down there
esnolaukiem on
latvian males famously bottoms
veggietrooper on
I would be curious to hear from any Dutch Redditors about their thoughts on this – cultural explanations, etc.
lizzy_tachibana on
One of the more positive legacies of the socialist regimes is that they had to, at least on paper, provide equal opportunity to both females and males. You could argue about the party hierarchy if it was successful but at least on workplace level it did stick. Not only, but wage gaps between genders wasn’t really an issue and there were some of the most generous social benefits for maternity leave, etc… legacies that even now still exist
At least that’s how I explain to myself Eastern Europe’s numbers
IlIIllIlllIIIllI on
What defines a firm?
Like is a single person who’s self employed considered in a top position?
Really happy that smaller countries like Latvia, Cyprus, Croatia and Slovenia are leading here
Performance292 on
What is considered ‘top roles’?
pothkan on
Does it cover all firms, or only these from top X, or hiring more than X people?
Because if all, local laws and situation might influence this data heavily. E.g. here in Poland, there’s a lot of so-called “JDG” (one-person economic activity) firms, which generally cover mostly male-related jobs.
Alert_Suit_4873 on
Because the % of women top roles is the most important metric for the success of a company right? Looking at this graph it looks like it may even have negative correlation 😂
SS_wypipo on
With a risk of being really misunderstood, I’ll still ask: why is this only important for good (leadership) positions but doesn’t matter for regular workers?
TillWinter on
When the GDR was incorporated into germany, a lot of studied women were treated like nobodies.
I am always reminded by one story. A friend of my grandmother was a female mathematician. She worked in cybernetic analysis in the LPG. They had a newer program than, trying to be more ecological. Calculating the minimal use of pesticides and fertilizer over grop rotation for the next 5 years.
After the wall fell, she lost her job. And had to hustle for a while. So she tried working in ensurance.
Her west german trainer brought preschool plastic toy cash machines to the first 3 training weeks.
They had to train on that machine “how capitalism works.” With play buying stuff, selling and basic grammar school accounting.
The reason East german women can’t hold equal qualifications, they must be told how to understand the world. I later learned that there are thousands of stories like that.
East Germany had parity in stem.
dopaminedune on
I see Germany is still an engineering centric nation.
boobookittyfuwk on
Whats going on here. Is this tracking 50/50 women to men. Or as a percentage of employees or a percentage of industry.
My work has 1 of 2 people at the top a women but theres only one other women in the company of 45. I know this tracks only big ciros but how would that rank. And the position she is in is in a feild thats heavily dominated by men.
woahdudee2a on
now do the bottom roles
Vegetable-River-253 on
So cool. The graph is in orange and Holland at the bottom
Sekhen on
At my work, women are the majority.
Documentation platform in the aviation industry.
Hot_Preparation4777 on
Positions of wealth and power. Corporate CEO’s , government positions etc etc. Most women don’t want to do the hard jobs in society and want “equality” mostly in cushy desk jobs.
Can we see the jobs reports on plumbers, roofers, construction workers, concrete pourers and brick layers?
Not a peep about the lack of women in these often times dangerous physical labor jobs.
SandVir on
Change is needed. That’s the Truth
But
Overcompensation for other age groups Is great for young women, unfortunately not for young men.
raedditbetternot on
The more women in leadership roles, the poorer the country it seems here if someone would compile a regression analysis.
HalfHorseHalfMann on
So rich countries are ruled by men.
Check.
(Not you Italy….go away).
valdemarolaf88 on
Why 50/50 a sign of anything on its own? Quite arbitrary
Also consider other metrics, like incarceration or suicide. Females get disproportionately lower sentences.
Everyone is in favor and agree with the principle, except of course……..
g_spaitz on
Look, look, see right there? Where a very civilized society, we’re not last! /s and crying.
That_Bus_6994 on
Are we rebuilding soviet union or what. These graphs make no sense. Whoever has better competence shouls get the job. As simple as that
First-Egg-713 on
And how much of this is actually by merit? Lol..
“ Europe has implemented mandatory gender quotas for corporate boards, requiring large listed companies to have at least 40%”
DEI quotas
ComfortableMenu8468 on
Kinda transphobe to only look at the male/female ratio when there is plenty of other genders.
Convoke_ on
The only thing that really matters is equal opportunities*. These numbers are interesting but quite meaningless on their own
*equal opportunities where it makes sense and within reason
gp7783 on
Is Latvia the country with the most important proportion of women in the EU?
VermicelliNew2784 on
Lack of women in higher positions is very obvious in Germany, none of the 4 German companies I worked at had a single woman at C-level table. Very embarrassing for Germany, but I don’t think they even care. Sweden is very impressively quiet the opposite in my experience.
peachdog3k on
In Germany it is not well seen that a woman has a career. At a certain point they should stay home raising the kids. That might explain the inequality, since the male counterpart will have more experience. Also, men who want to raise kids and become stay-at-home dads are looked at with distrust.
PlansThatComeTrue on
All she gonna do is fire half the company and get pregnant
Medlarmarmaduke on
Slovenia is doing so great! Why are they so far ahead of their neighbours?
BasKabelas on
I’m Dutch and tbh it doesn’t surprise me. Whenever the subject is gender equality in leadership positions I hear half the people around me default to “uh how about promotions by competence instead”. I mean on the surface I don’t disagree competence should be a major factor but the comment also hints at some underlying idea of women being less competent?
Also, I’m sure this is changing pretty quick as most women I know my age (30) don’t have kids so less being pushed into picking being a mother or pursuing a career.
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Balkans more progressive than the Netherlands confirmed.
I have to admit, I really didn’t expect Denmark and Netherlands down there
latvian males famously bottoms
I would be curious to hear from any Dutch Redditors about their thoughts on this – cultural explanations, etc.
One of the more positive legacies of the socialist regimes is that they had to, at least on paper, provide equal opportunity to both females and males. You could argue about the party hierarchy if it was successful but at least on workplace level it did stick. Not only, but wage gaps between genders wasn’t really an issue and there were some of the most generous social benefits for maternity leave, etc… legacies that even now still exist
At least that’s how I explain to myself Eastern Europe’s numbers
What defines a firm?
Like is a single person who’s self employed considered in a top position?
If accurate, most curious regarding the Dutch
I’m surprised Poland is so high
Totally forgot, here’s the full study. Worth a scroll-through if you ask me: [https://www.eib.org/en/publications/20250216-econ-eibis-2025-eu](https://www.eib.org/en/publications/20250216-econ-eibis-2025-eu)
Wow, I didnt know we did this poorly.
Really happy that smaller countries like Latvia, Cyprus, Croatia and Slovenia are leading here
What is considered ‘top roles’?
Does it cover all firms, or only these from top X, or hiring more than X people?
Because if all, local laws and situation might influence this data heavily. E.g. here in Poland, there’s a lot of so-called “JDG” (one-person economic activity) firms, which generally cover mostly male-related jobs.
Because the % of women top roles is the most important metric for the success of a company right? Looking at this graph it looks like it may even have negative correlation 😂
With a risk of being really misunderstood, I’ll still ask: why is this only important for good (leadership) positions but doesn’t matter for regular workers?
When the GDR was incorporated into germany, a lot of studied women were treated like nobodies.
I am always reminded by one story. A friend of my grandmother was a female mathematician. She worked in cybernetic analysis in the LPG. They had a newer program than, trying to be more ecological. Calculating the minimal use of pesticides and fertilizer over grop rotation for the next 5 years.
After the wall fell, she lost her job. And had to hustle for a while. So she tried working in ensurance.
Her west german trainer brought preschool plastic toy cash machines to the first 3 training weeks.
They had to train on that machine “how capitalism works.” With play buying stuff, selling and basic grammar school accounting.
The reason East german women can’t hold equal qualifications, they must be told how to understand the world. I later learned that there are thousands of stories like that.
East Germany had parity in stem.
I see Germany is still an engineering centric nation.
Whats going on here. Is this tracking 50/50 women to men. Or as a percentage of employees or a percentage of industry.
My work has 1 of 2 people at the top a women but theres only one other women in the company of 45. I know this tracks only big ciros but how would that rank. And the position she is in is in a feild thats heavily dominated by men.
now do the bottom roles
So cool. The graph is in orange and Holland at the bottom
At my work, women are the majority.
Documentation platform in the aviation industry.
Positions of wealth and power. Corporate CEO’s , government positions etc etc. Most women don’t want to do the hard jobs in society and want “equality” mostly in cushy desk jobs.
Can we see the jobs reports on plumbers, roofers, construction workers, concrete pourers and brick layers?
Not a peep about the lack of women in these often times dangerous physical labor jobs.
Change is needed. That’s the Truth
But
Overcompensation for other age groups Is great for young women, unfortunately not for young men.
The more women in leadership roles, the poorer the country it seems here if someone would compile a regression analysis.
So rich countries are ruled by men.
Check.
(Not you Italy….go away).
Why 50/50 a sign of anything on its own? Quite arbitrary
Also consider other metrics, like incarceration or suicide. Females get disproportionately lower sentences.
Good old British Comedy comes to mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_KRk4q3Y44
Everyone is in favor and agree with the principle, except of course……..
Look, look, see right there? Where a very civilized society, we’re not last! /s and crying.
Are we rebuilding soviet union or what. These graphs make no sense. Whoever has better competence shouls get the job. As simple as that
And how much of this is actually by merit? Lol..
“ Europe has implemented mandatory gender quotas for corporate boards, requiring large listed companies to have at least 40%”
DEI quotas
Kinda transphobe to only look at the male/female ratio when there is plenty of other genders.
The only thing that really matters is equal opportunities*. These numbers are interesting but quite meaningless on their own
*equal opportunities where it makes sense and within reason
Is Latvia the country with the most important proportion of women in the EU?
Lack of women in higher positions is very obvious in Germany, none of the 4 German companies I worked at had a single woman at C-level table. Very embarrassing for Germany, but I don’t think they even care. Sweden is very impressively quiet the opposite in my experience.
In Germany it is not well seen that a woman has a career. At a certain point they should stay home raising the kids. That might explain the inequality, since the male counterpart will have more experience. Also, men who want to raise kids and become stay-at-home dads are looked at with distrust.
All she gonna do is fire half the company and get pregnant
Slovenia is doing so great! Why are they so far ahead of their neighbours?
I’m Dutch and tbh it doesn’t surprise me. Whenever the subject is gender equality in leadership positions I hear half the people around me default to “uh how about promotions by competence instead”. I mean on the surface I don’t disagree competence should be a major factor but the comment also hints at some underlying idea of women being less competent?
Also, I’m sure this is changing pretty quick as most women I know my age (30) don’t have kids so less being pushed into picking being a mother or pursuing a career.