but my dick size doesn’t care about shitty european lives!
VibrantGypsyDildo on
It is up to American manufacturers to follow European standards if they want to sell cars in Europe.
jan_sollo on
Now let’s see how EU fumbles this one big time.
bot_for_hire_ on
Sure if we speak about safety standards, but otherwise owning a car in Europe is like you’ve committed a crime and you’re waiting for trial…
Dyn-O-mite_Rocketeer on
It’s not even about the standards. American cars are shit (excl. European Ford). That’s why we don’t buy them.
OrdinaryPollution339 on
Europeans need to understand that the US has two vehicle standards: passenger cars and “light” trucks (the latter to differentiate against “heavy” commercial trucks).
The US standards for passenger vehicles like cars (sedans/saloons, coupes, wagons, etc.) and crossovers and -some- small vans and pickup trucks are similar to European and Chinese standards (although not enforced of late).
Large pickup trucks and SUVs, typically “ladder and frame construction” and having a higher Gross Vehicle Weight are exempt from the safety and environmental standards for passenger vehicles. This is the loophole that has allowed the proliferation of large, inefficient and deadly vehicles on US roads.
tldr; Europe is only screwed if they accept the US loophole exempting trucks, not the actual standards.
edit: link to old (2004) Gladwell article in the New Yorker that summarizes the loophole
A very useful pickup truck for driving on some streets built in the middle ages…
schacks on
who is even suggesting this and why would we even want those grotesque American behemoths?
Quick_Gazelle_5023 on
I drive a 1992 Chevy in the US. Idk why anyone would want to drive a pickup in Europe. I can’t even properly use the roundabouts in Seattle because the turn radius and wheel base is so wide.
markkuselinen on
I like many of models that are sold in the US but not in Europe, for example Lexus GX, Lexus TX, Toyota Sienna. Don’t know why, but it’s really hard to find a good family car that has enough space and AWD.
TooFatTooFuriouz on
Volvo had to adapt to US laws to sell there, kinda feel like they should do the same to us eu peeps
Gentle_Capybara on
There is an easy solution: mandatory heavy vehicle/ C category license for driving these trucks. Most of the bellends who wants these things would probably not be capable of passing the tests.
Ok_Situation_7081 on
Mark Rutte: Daddy wants a response before noon tomorrow.
Chefs-Kiss on
Important note: We would lowering our standards for their cars. That’s the point of the article. Send an email to your MEP (any national MEP will do but better if u can get someone involved in trade). Ask ChatGPT on who to contact, it can actually give guidance on this bc it has access to a large set of dags that I am to lazy to dig through. I believe INTA committee is in charge of this particular deal but I’m not sure
passion-froot_ on
Nationalism clouds you. What standards does the rest of the west even have that aren’t nearly identical in most regards to Murica?
It would have been one thing to just say ‘we don’t want muscle cars and other vain models that are frankly stupid and bad for the environment’ – but when the ‘bad for the environment’ part is something that plagues this whole rock and isn’t unique to America, it really shows a vain mess that is no different than what you believe we portray.
No, US cars wouldn’t risk European lives. You just want to feel superior and self sufficient when that very loud commenting only goes to betray that very sentiment itself.
We won’t get far as a species quipping and squabbling like this. Just an observation
Sad-Attempt6263 on
If its VDL and her group bending over backwards for business interests again, they gotta go bro, such a fucking stumbling block to being competent. Now this.
DaoNight23 on
the streets in my town are already congested with regular euro SUVs; these american tanks would be a disaster for everyone, including their poor drivers.
Econ_Orc on
Since there are very pedestrians and cyclists in most of the US, it makes sense to only protect the people in the car.
Try an experiment next time you get into one of those huge US pickups. Place a person in front and behind the car. Imagine a toddler is roughly knee high. Let the person slowly walk away until you can see that knee in the rear view mirror or out the windshield……. A kid could hide there from sight easily. Heck three cows and a bathtub could hide there, and you would not know it until the car hits.
letterboxfrog on
Just make sure licencing standards require heavy vehicle licence and nil Blood Alcohol while driving, and not allowed in Loading Zones. Suddenly very unattractive.
Cute-Breadfruit3368 on
What standards? americans do not have car standards.
Hansdawgg on
Titles like this are always strange to me. Not saying there aren’t ways that European cars aren’t safer but the opposite is also undeniable true. There are definitely things on both sides that arguably don’t actually make the car safer like the passenger seat sensors here in the USA or some of the driver monitoring stuff in the EU. Having said that even those sensors basically force the passenger to wear a seatbelt. I always find it interesting how many cars are illegal to even import here in the USA because they refuse to go through the vast crash safety testing required which I would guess is the same for the EU. Sometimes you have to ask is the car as safe as they say it is if they aren’t even willing to have them extensively crash tested. Regardless of what side of the pond you are on I hope we won’t see more real driver safety stuff get rolled back like it has in the past compared to some of the practically virtue signaling stuff they add nowadays.
DaoNight23 on
Not Just Bikes made a video about this proposal, explaining how and why these behemoths caught on in USA, and why they would be an even bigger disaster in Europe: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–832LV9a3I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–832LV9a3I)
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but my dick size doesn’t care about shitty european lives!
It is up to American manufacturers to follow European standards if they want to sell cars in Europe.
Now let’s see how EU fumbles this one big time.
Sure if we speak about safety standards, but otherwise owning a car in Europe is like you’ve committed a crime and you’re waiting for trial…
It’s not even about the standards. American cars are shit (excl. European Ford). That’s why we don’t buy them.
Europeans need to understand that the US has two vehicle standards: passenger cars and “light” trucks (the latter to differentiate against “heavy” commercial trucks).
The US standards for passenger vehicles like cars (sedans/saloons, coupes, wagons, etc.) and crossovers and -some- small vans and pickup trucks are similar to European and Chinese standards (although not enforced of late).
Large pickup trucks and SUVs, typically “ladder and frame construction” and having a higher Gross Vehicle Weight are exempt from the safety and environmental standards for passenger vehicles. This is the loophole that has allowed the proliferation of large, inefficient and deadly vehicles on US roads.
tldr; Europe is only screwed if they accept the US loophole exempting trucks, not the actual standards.
edit: link to old (2004) Gladwell article in the New Yorker that summarizes the loophole
https://www.insuranceobserver.com/PDF/2005/090905.pdf
We should only allow the muscle cars and V8s
They can keep their pickup trucks, no thanks
A very useful pickup truck for driving on some streets built in the middle ages…
who is even suggesting this and why would we even want those grotesque American behemoths?
I drive a 1992 Chevy in the US. Idk why anyone would want to drive a pickup in Europe. I can’t even properly use the roundabouts in Seattle because the turn radius and wheel base is so wide.
I like many of models that are sold in the US but not in Europe, for example Lexus GX, Lexus TX, Toyota Sienna. Don’t know why, but it’s really hard to find a good family car that has enough space and AWD.
Volvo had to adapt to US laws to sell there, kinda feel like they should do the same to us eu peeps
There is an easy solution: mandatory heavy vehicle/ C category license for driving these trucks. Most of the bellends who wants these things would probably not be capable of passing the tests.
Mark Rutte: Daddy wants a response before noon tomorrow.
Important note: We would lowering our standards for their cars. That’s the point of the article. Send an email to your MEP (any national MEP will do but better if u can get someone involved in trade). Ask ChatGPT on who to contact, it can actually give guidance on this bc it has access to a large set of dags that I am to lazy to dig through. I believe INTA committee is in charge of this particular deal but I’m not sure
Nationalism clouds you. What standards does the rest of the west even have that aren’t nearly identical in most regards to Murica?
It would have been one thing to just say ‘we don’t want muscle cars and other vain models that are frankly stupid and bad for the environment’ – but when the ‘bad for the environment’ part is something that plagues this whole rock and isn’t unique to America, it really shows a vain mess that is no different than what you believe we portray.
No, US cars wouldn’t risk European lives. You just want to feel superior and self sufficient when that very loud commenting only goes to betray that very sentiment itself.
We won’t get far as a species quipping and squabbling like this. Just an observation
If its VDL and her group bending over backwards for business interests again, they gotta go bro, such a fucking stumbling block to being competent. Now this.
the streets in my town are already congested with regular euro SUVs; these american tanks would be a disaster for everyone, including their poor drivers.
Since there are very pedestrians and cyclists in most of the US, it makes sense to only protect the people in the car.
Try an experiment next time you get into one of those huge US pickups. Place a person in front and behind the car. Imagine a toddler is roughly knee high. Let the person slowly walk away until you can see that knee in the rear view mirror or out the windshield……. A kid could hide there from sight easily. Heck three cows and a bathtub could hide there, and you would not know it until the car hits.
Just make sure licencing standards require heavy vehicle licence and nil Blood Alcohol while driving, and not allowed in Loading Zones. Suddenly very unattractive.
What standards? americans do not have car standards.
Titles like this are always strange to me. Not saying there aren’t ways that European cars aren’t safer but the opposite is also undeniable true. There are definitely things on both sides that arguably don’t actually make the car safer like the passenger seat sensors here in the USA or some of the driver monitoring stuff in the EU. Having said that even those sensors basically force the passenger to wear a seatbelt. I always find it interesting how many cars are illegal to even import here in the USA because they refuse to go through the vast crash safety testing required which I would guess is the same for the EU. Sometimes you have to ask is the car as safe as they say it is if they aren’t even willing to have them extensively crash tested. Regardless of what side of the pond you are on I hope we won’t see more real driver safety stuff get rolled back like it has in the past compared to some of the practically virtue signaling stuff they add nowadays.
Not Just Bikes made a video about this proposal, explaining how and why these behemoths caught on in USA, and why they would be an even bigger disaster in Europe: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–832LV9a3I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–832LV9a3I)