I pendolari di Navan sono al “punto di rottura” a causa del collasso dell’affidabilità degli autobus, afferma il consigliere di Meath
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/meath/news/navan-commuters-at-breaking-point-as-bus-reliability-collapses-says-meath-councillor/a158887213.html
di WildCitron7118
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But sure we NEED you back in the office full time!
> She added that students travelling from Navan to secondary schools in Dunshaughlin are now routinely arriving late.
Sorry, but a journey that far just for school makes little sense.
Sounds like heavy traffic is holding the buses up, which is why we need the Metro, DART+, Luas extensions, and rail to Navan. This will help free up road space so the buses are more on time.
Good thing DART + and the Luas to Finglas have planning permission so the government can start these projects as soon as possible……right?
It’s not just Navan: the 103 that many in Ashbourne rely on has itself become a total farce of a service, with all the same problems & net-result for those requiring its use. Makes one wonder if there’s _something_ going on in a broad sense across Meath re. Bus Eireann.
Does Navan still not have a rail connection? That’s mad.
Cars, the problem is cars
Route cause is abysmal urban planning.
Affordable housing became available only further out from Dublin which is the employment centre.
There’s a small element of Irish cultural stupidity though amongst a smaller cohort, wanting to move ‘home’ to Cavan etc to have a McMansion and ignoring the risks of a 100km round trip.
This is why I’ve struggled to take anyone seriously that believes Helen McEntee would make a worthy Taoiseach. She’s had over a decade in Meath East (I know Navan isn’t part of this but any infrastructure would cover the whole county) and Meath has been regressing as a county in the last decade. It’s insanity there’s no rail line in Meath, not only Navan but Ashbourne, Kells, Trim, Ratoath etc. and all the way up to Cavan. Yet these are supposed to be commuter towns, my commute from Kells to Dublin via bus used to take 2.5 hours each way some days and as soon as I got a more long term contract in that job I moved up the first chance I got.
Maybe if there was an actual connection from the county to Dublin, then maybe people wouldn’t feel they have to move.
Goes to show how useless these consultants are that we pay millions for
In what world was an express bus service a suitable substitute for rail? Especially for such a fast growing town in the Dublin commuter belt
I’ve never had an issue with this bus route and surprised how quick/frequent they are. Using NX and the occasional 109A for late nights out. But I’m only doing to and from journeys twice a week
25 years promising a train.
Where’s the damn train?
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/transport-plan-rockets-to-more-than-14bn/26105630.html
“Traffic is awful and having a car is too expensive”
“Hey why don’t you use public transport?”
Public Transport *collapse*
We need to be building infrastructure for future demand now, not kicking it down the road when the demand is already critical.
The whole country is fucked.
The traffic in Cork grinds to a halt every day and 1 accident can lock up the whole city. Buses simply dont show up anymore and leave people stranded, consistently late for work or take over 2 hours to get the 10 miles home in the evenings.
Taxi’s are outrageously expensive and completely unfeasible to most people to use regularly.
We have a very limited rail service that only serves a handful of commuter towns to the North and East.
Getting your Drivers Licence is prohibitively costly and time consuming especially if you dont have another person to with a full licence to sit in the car with you, let alone the fact that the wait for the test is almost a year.
Kids should be walking to school if there is footpaths. Its fucking ridiculous that they are being dropped door to door. I did it from the age of 10, regardless of the weather conditions.
Office workers should all be returned to WFH. There is no need to have all these people in office daily, we proved that over covid.
Just my 2 cents. I have a full licence, no kids and WFH, so none of this affects me.
They should have been building train lines 30 years ago the stupid bastards.
There’s a train line to Navan (via Drogheda) that already exists that they choose not to put back into use.
There’s also the M3 Parkway, phase 2 of which was meant to extend to Navan via Dunshaughlin. Phase 1 was completed 15 years ago and a spade hasn’t hit the ground since.
They could run a shuttle to Drogheda or a train to Dublin through Drogheda, but they’ve choked that line so much through failure to develop any supporting infrastructure and are already talking about getting rid of the Howth train. Because naturally, giving a worse service to growing suburbs with growing populations is so much easier than investing to 4 track a portion of the line or even, God forbid, showing a bit of ambition and run the airport metro line up to rejoin the main line and bring Belfast/ Newry/ Dundalk/ Drogheda trains into Dublin via the airport.
They could pull the finger out and start building the second half of a project that was started 20 years ago.
They could even just run a shuttle bus to the M3 parkway station/ increase the parking available there/ increase the frequency of trains and sell that as a medium term solution.
But nah, none of the above, cheers.
I live outside Navan and avoid going into as much as I can as there is so much traffic. Not the only one.
The cause of the delays in buses is too many cars on the road, both in Navan and Dublin. However from a sample of my neighbours only a handful take the bus. A lot would have to take two buses to get to work if they didn’t drive. They work all over the place: two in tallaght, some in Kildare, couple in Intel on shift work, some in swords near the airport. Most who work in the areas serviced by the bus take the bus already. A lot drive to blanchardstown and take the bus from there. But my area doesn’t have a lot of new houses or new people. So not a good sample.
There should be a train to Navan, there should be a metro in Dublin. Remote working does not fix all the issues, it works for older office workers, not so great for others. I work in tech and hate going in but for the younger workers they like it. Also as I said not everyone works in the city centre. Better public transport will fix some of the problems.
The terrible effort put into urban design planning in our towns/cities and poor building of housing and infrastructure has yielded exactly what was expected. We have a very spread out city in Dublin and people bought where they could afford and put up with the commute.
109x is also a joke of a service…. People going to Virginia or Cavan left standing at bus stops because it’s full.
3 busses in the space of a half hour in the mornings, all going the same route, also one bus an hour coming home at ridiculous times. 4:15, 5:15 doesn’t suit anyone who has a more than minute walk from their office, so people drive. Finish at 4 and might not see home till half 7 on the bus vs 6 if driving..
Not surprised, we have a bus that goes from Wexford to Waterford and it’s constantly late. I messaged Bus Éireann about this asking what they are doing to improve punctuality and they responded that it’s too hard to run an on-time service and that’s that.
Its only going to get worse while people move out of dublin for cheaper living conditions. Population growth is too fast.