So they going to reopen wards. Staff them correctly and fix onward social care?
No…. darn.
AnywhereInitial5108 on
I look forward to hearing how he plans to do this. I’m sure he’s not just spouting random sound bites with nothing to back up his words…
Impossible-Bar8099 on
As the ICU doctor on call, I recently got a call from an A&E doc referring a patient with a perforated bowel and thought “oh crap, they need to go for an operation and then come to us ASAP”. Go down to A&E to find them sat in a corridor by the ambulance doors. This is normal, every day stuff unfortunately.
Hospital trusts are always trying to come up with new pathways and systems to try and avoid it or quick fixes to move patients through the hospital, but ultimately to sort this out you probably need fundamental changes to how social care in this country is funded and takes place. Ultimately it starts with social care – an astonishingly large amount of patients are medically fit and stuck in hospital waiting for care in the community which is a major cause of the back log. To fix that you need to make some pretty stark changes to how that is funded and is run. But if they truly make these sorts of changes and actually get the corridor patients down, then this will be the Labour party I voted for. I’m a little skeptical.
Ronald_Ulysses_Swans on
Good luck. My local hospital has been doing it for years and unless Streeting is going to fix social care or build a bigger hospital they won’t be able to stop.
Uniform764 on
We’re currently in a situation where doctors with a PhD and multiple research publications who have presented at international medical conferences cant even get an interview for a training post designed for someone two years out of medical school. Thousands of UK doctors face unemployment. Those that are employed are currently striking over pay. And that’s without condisdering nurses, radiographers, PT/OT and just a general lack of places to see patients.
Wes will sort fuck all by next election
One-Positive309 on
Saying it is one thing but clearly he is unaware that the problem is funding or rather a lack of it !
My elderly mother had to go into hospital a year ago in the early hours of the morning and of course there was nowhere for her to wait other than the corridor. The staff were apologetic and did their best to make sure everyone was dealt with as quickly as possible and after some tests she was taken to a ward but still had to wait for a bed. The hospital was very busy and quite noisy with lots of staff and nurses rushing around doing their level best to deal with every patient in turn.
A couple of weeks ago my mother had to go into hospital again but this time there was barely any staff and the place looked to be running on a shoe string budget, it wasn’t as busy this year but that’s just as well because there was a serious shortage of staff, there were more cleaners than nurses and the cleaners were also helping with patient care !
UnluckyPalpitation45 on
Fascinating.
Would be useful to get your doctors onside.
Oh and maybe make sure doctors trained in British medical schools actually have jobs to go onto.
Beneficial-Bagman on
That’s a very short timeframe to build a whole bunch of new wards
slartybartfast6 on
No doubt will include the private sector again coming from the existing NHS budgets…
JohnGazman on
And people have the gall to say Rachel Reeves is misleading the public, goodness me.
I mean fair play to Streeting for wanting to sort this out but call me a cynic but I can’t see them turning around systemic problems within the NHS in three years time, with government finances and the economy in the toilet.
elhazelenby on
At the end of October I had to wait over 12 hours in a&e for a bed just to be put in a trolley in a corridor. Then I was taken to a ward, only to be put in the corridor of that ward for another few hours. Then finally after a day and a half in a room in an actual bed. It’s awful.
Desperate_Caramel_10 on
I think that in the UK things don’t tend to get fixed until we hit a breaking point and since the NHS is 1 bad flu season away from that breaking point, I’m hopeful the NHS will be getting fixed soon.
arncl on
Wes next election: “Those aren’t corridors, they are inter-ward transportation hubs”.
Skylon77 on
Ha, ha, ha.
Not happening.
The NHS is currently in complete meltdown.
dynesor on
I was admitted to hospital a couple of weeks ago after arriving at ED. Was put on a trolley in the corridor and told they would move me to a ward as soon as a bed became available. This was on a Thursday afternoon. Two nights on the corridor trolley and then two nights in a ‘normal’ bed in a bay in ED and was sent home on Monday afternoon before a ward bed had even been freed up.
ID3293 on
Excellent. I do love when a shit minister pledges to do something they have no idea how to achieve. It makes it very obvious how shit they are when they fail, and very difficult for them to save face.
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So they going to reopen wards. Staff them correctly and fix onward social care?
No…. darn.
I look forward to hearing how he plans to do this. I’m sure he’s not just spouting random sound bites with nothing to back up his words…
As the ICU doctor on call, I recently got a call from an A&E doc referring a patient with a perforated bowel and thought “oh crap, they need to go for an operation and then come to us ASAP”. Go down to A&E to find them sat in a corridor by the ambulance doors. This is normal, every day stuff unfortunately.
Hospital trusts are always trying to come up with new pathways and systems to try and avoid it or quick fixes to move patients through the hospital, but ultimately to sort this out you probably need fundamental changes to how social care in this country is funded and takes place. Ultimately it starts with social care – an astonishingly large amount of patients are medically fit and stuck in hospital waiting for care in the community which is a major cause of the back log. To fix that you need to make some pretty stark changes to how that is funded and is run. But if they truly make these sorts of changes and actually get the corridor patients down, then this will be the Labour party I voted for. I’m a little skeptical.
Good luck. My local hospital has been doing it for years and unless Streeting is going to fix social care or build a bigger hospital they won’t be able to stop.
We’re currently in a situation where doctors with a PhD and multiple research publications who have presented at international medical conferences cant even get an interview for a training post designed for someone two years out of medical school. Thousands of UK doctors face unemployment. Those that are employed are currently striking over pay. And that’s without condisdering nurses, radiographers, PT/OT and just a general lack of places to see patients.
Wes will sort fuck all by next election
Saying it is one thing but clearly he is unaware that the problem is funding or rather a lack of it !
My elderly mother had to go into hospital a year ago in the early hours of the morning and of course there was nowhere for her to wait other than the corridor. The staff were apologetic and did their best to make sure everyone was dealt with as quickly as possible and after some tests she was taken to a ward but still had to wait for a bed. The hospital was very busy and quite noisy with lots of staff and nurses rushing around doing their level best to deal with every patient in turn.
A couple of weeks ago my mother had to go into hospital again but this time there was barely any staff and the place looked to be running on a shoe string budget, it wasn’t as busy this year but that’s just as well because there was a serious shortage of staff, there were more cleaners than nurses and the cleaners were also helping with patient care !
Fascinating.
Would be useful to get your doctors onside.
Oh and maybe make sure doctors trained in British medical schools actually have jobs to go onto.
That’s a very short timeframe to build a whole bunch of new wards
No doubt will include the private sector again coming from the existing NHS budgets…
And people have the gall to say Rachel Reeves is misleading the public, goodness me.
I mean fair play to Streeting for wanting to sort this out but call me a cynic but I can’t see them turning around systemic problems within the NHS in three years time, with government finances and the economy in the toilet.
At the end of October I had to wait over 12 hours in a&e for a bed just to be put in a trolley in a corridor. Then I was taken to a ward, only to be put in the corridor of that ward for another few hours. Then finally after a day and a half in a room in an actual bed. It’s awful.
I think that in the UK things don’t tend to get fixed until we hit a breaking point and since the NHS is 1 bad flu season away from that breaking point, I’m hopeful the NHS will be getting fixed soon.
Wes next election: “Those aren’t corridors, they are inter-ward transportation hubs”.
Ha, ha, ha.
Not happening.
The NHS is currently in complete meltdown.
I was admitted to hospital a couple of weeks ago after arriving at ED. Was put on a trolley in the corridor and told they would move me to a ward as soon as a bed became available. This was on a Thursday afternoon. Two nights on the corridor trolley and then two nights in a ‘normal’ bed in a bay in ED and was sent home on Monday afternoon before a ward bed had even been freed up.
Excellent. I do love when a shit minister pledges to do something they have no idea how to achieve. It makes it very obvious how shit they are when they fail, and very difficult for them to save face.