Macron ha avvertito che gli Stati Uniti potrebbero “tradire” l’Ucraina nell’appello trapelato dai leader, riferisce Spiegel

    https://www.politico.eu/article/european-leaders-warn-us-could-betray-ukraine-in-leaked-call/

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    1. HydrolicKrane on

      It was becoming obvious 9 months ago already. Read

      “Trump-Putin Pact resembling Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact appears to be in the works: It’s collusion now, not appeasement”

    2. Itchy-Revenue-3774 on

      I wonder if this was a deliberate leak by at least one of the leaders to get their message out without publicly criticizing the trump administration. Them refusing to comment is equal to pretty much confirming it, but it can’t be really be used against them

    3. Key_Wrangler_8321 on

      COULD?? Stop being afraid, for God’s sake, and call things by their real name! The usa has already betrayed Ukraine and continues to do so. Putin defeated the usa without firing a single bullet, put his own clown there, and the usa has effectively become a russian sphere. When will someone official finally say this out loud? Pick your balls up off the floor and start thinking independently of the usa, because it will betray you too — Europe. America has become an unreliable partner and an ally of russia.

    4. Ugh, he’s spot on. What the hell is Kushner even doing there, can’t be good.

    5. ZahryDarko on

      No shit Sherlock, like the majority of a continent did not say so for the last 9 months.

    6. Immolation_E on

      Could? Sadly, that’s exactly what we are doing. Europe should have had that inkling over a year ago when we failed to not re-elect the Orange Dump.

    7. Araminal on

      I was watching an interview with an ex-CIA operative (who was jailed for whistleblowing about torture happening), and his opinion was that neither the UK or the EU can currently count on the US for support. If the EU and UK can’t count on the support of the US then it’s a foregone concussion that they aren’t going to support Ukraine in a meaningful way, as has been seen.

      It’s shameful how the US has lost the trust of its allies due to the actions of a demagogue and his cronies, and the lack of action of people in power who should have reigned in his abuse of power.

    8. GuitarGeezer on

      One has only to look at the pardons to see the corruption. Oh, and he solicited more Qatar style bribes for political and military help on fu$&ing tv when meeting with SA prez Ramaphosa. And rubbed it in to disable his gimp apologists with “and I’d take it, too”. At this point, any non rule of law country not bribing him are kinda stupid although he will keep pushing you for more grift once you give him some. coincidentally the Russians cashed a lot of gold for the first time recently…

      I have 648 other concrete examples, not that American voters are capable of knowing or caring about anything.

    9. CommonConundrum51 on

      Trump will betray Ukraine and this has been clear for a long time. His boss demands this.

    10. Could?

      They have betrayed Ukraine.

      The mood is not good in Europe either. People in the leadership positions should frame the entire thing differently to their populations.

      As much as I hate imperialist Churchill he knew how to frame the conflict.

      The message to send to Russia should be that we will never surrender and will destroy them no matter what and how long it takes.

      All these peace talks are just BS.

    11. Blurghblagh on

      The US already has, is now, and will again betray Ukraine.

    12. SaltySeaCapt on

      It seems readily apparent that the US is going to betray everyone, including themselves.

    13. They’ve already betrayed Ukraine. Do we really need to wait for an official note from the USA?

    14. RobotPilotMan on

      I mean he’s dead right and has the bottle to say it this was prob leaked by the same people who leaked the call with trumps advisor.

      Mi5 well played lads keep it up the only way to make a narcissist do thr right thing is to make him avoid embarrassing explanations of his lies.

    15. The US has betrayed its own populace, the EU, and us up here in Canada. Time for the west to unite around its shared values of decency and and move away from that capitalist hellscape that is America.

    16. FrozenOnPluto on

      Trump was obviously corrupt and incompetent since day one. You couuuuld forgive people for voting him in first time, but it is insane people legit voted him in a second time. So the US govt is currently suspect or compromised, but the people encouraged it to happen 🙁

    17. nickjamesnstuff on

      Could? Pretty wild looking at trump just capitulate to Russia and…. whatever. Its all shit and the bad guys are running the show. it’s wild watching the end of America live

    18. Evilscotsman30 on

      America and betraying its allies you couldn’t name a more iconic duo fucking rats.

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