Seems like a good deal. The problem is Russia won’t accept it, because Putin believes he can gain more from continuing to fight than to make peace. Until that calculus changes, and Putin believes peace gives him more than war, he will continue to fight. That’s why supporting Ukraine to reduce Russia’s possible gains is so important.
SnooPoems3464 on
No peace without territorial integrity.
SheriffHarryBawls on
Tldr for everyone:
To the last Ukrainian!
Snake_Plizken on
I want to see a plan on how we together thoroughly, and resoundingly defeat Russia. With points like how we best help Ukraine destroy oil revenue, and military production, by boosting its long range capability’s. Ukrainian units are doing crowd funding to buy one pickup at a time, while their life expectancy is less than a month, at the front. At the same time Germany alone produces 4 million(!) vehicles every year. How can we best protect it’s cities from the daily terror bombing. Long term issues like how to get away from the reliance on American satellite systems. If they shut us out of GPS, and skylink we are in pretty bad shape. What is the point to even discuss the peace deal, when Russia have zero interest in peace whatsoever? And even if they did, they cant be trusted, and anything signed by them, is not worth the paper it is written on…
TianZiGaming on
>and noted that Kyiv’s current priority is building effective guarantees from Europe’s Coalition of the Willing and, critically, from the U.S.
And there’s the problem, as always. Any European deal that relies on US security guarantees means most of the proposal will end up with what America wants.
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Seems like a good deal. The problem is Russia won’t accept it, because Putin believes he can gain more from continuing to fight than to make peace. Until that calculus changes, and Putin believes peace gives him more than war, he will continue to fight. That’s why supporting Ukraine to reduce Russia’s possible gains is so important.
No peace without territorial integrity.
Tldr for everyone:
To the last Ukrainian!
I want to see a plan on how we together thoroughly, and resoundingly defeat Russia. With points like how we best help Ukraine destroy oil revenue, and military production, by boosting its long range capability’s. Ukrainian units are doing crowd funding to buy one pickup at a time, while their life expectancy is less than a month, at the front. At the same time Germany alone produces 4 million(!) vehicles every year. How can we best protect it’s cities from the daily terror bombing. Long term issues like how to get away from the reliance on American satellite systems. If they shut us out of GPS, and skylink we are in pretty bad shape. What is the point to even discuss the peace deal, when Russia have zero interest in peace whatsoever? And even if they did, they cant be trusted, and anything signed by them, is not worth the paper it is written on…
>and noted that Kyiv’s current priority is building effective guarantees from Europe’s Coalition of the Willing and, critically, from the U.S.
And there’s the problem, as always. Any European deal that relies on US security guarantees means most of the proposal will end up with what America wants.