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  1. SraminiElMejorBeaver on

    >The refusal could make it more difficult for the German military to cooperate with the US and other NATO allies

    >BERLIN – The US government has once again refused a request from the German defence ministry to integrate the Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) rockets Berlin purchased from Washington with European rocket launchers, Euractiv has learned.

    >The German government has made multiple such requests over the past several years. Still, neither the Biden nor the Trump administration has shown openness, according to German and American government sources. The refusal could jeopardise the German military’s interoperability with the US and other NATO allies, many of which use US-made launchers.

    >The modernisation and expansion of Germany’s rocket artillery systems are among the central goals of the country’s so-called *Zeitenwende*, the shift in foreign and defence policy announced in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. One of the key lessons from the war has been the need to rebuild rocket artillery capabilities.

    >For decades, Germany has used MARS II launchers, which are compatible with US systems. However, Germany’s Ministry of Defence is now aiming to adopt the Euro-PULS rocket launcher system, a joint project by defence companies Elbit and KNDS, which can be equipped with weapons from various manufacturers.

    >Berlin has purchased five Euro-PULS systems for testing, and they will be integrated into the German military in 2026.

    >Still, the decision to use these new launchers has created complications. Germany needs US approval to integrate American weapons into the Euro-PULS system. To date, the US-purchased GMLRS rockets used by the Bundeswehr on its MARS II launchers are not compatible with Euro-PULS.

    >The German defence ministry has long expressed confidence that Washington would grant the necessary authorisation. Yet for nearly three years, no such approval has been issued.

    >This places the ministry of defence in a bind. Not only would the newly acquired Euro-PULS systems be incompatible with the GMLRS rockets already in Bundeswehr stocks, but the inability to integrate US weapons into German systems also complicates cooperation with NATO partners.

    >Countries such as Italy, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, and the Baltic states have all opted for the US HIMARS system and its associated GMLRS rockets.

    >One likely reason for the US refusal is that integrating the fire-control software connecting the launcher and the rocket could give other manufacturers partial insight into the functioning of some of the most advanced US missiles, including PrSM, which has a range of up to 1,000 kilometres.

    >Some officials at the German ministry of defence said the US could provide a new software solution that would avoid these concerns.

    >In an email to Euractiv, a German ministry of defence spokeswoman said the US decision is not yet final.

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    Sorry to say, but who thought having no Plan B was a good idea? Who thought renting our security and tech from “allies” is the right way to go?

  3. tilehalo on

    I doubt that their military industrial complex is happy with the current admin. Or they are in for a rude awakening

  4. Rogthgar on

    Hopefully they have been looking at developing their own launchers and rockets… since this is not exactly new.

  5. Angry-Sek-man on

    That quite normal.

    Germans for example dont allow us to put our radios in our Leopard 2 so we have to use some old shit from 80

  6. Madman_Sean on

    Classic US

    Refusing to share/sell knowledge for the last 30 years

  7. p0megranate13 on

    Washington’s regime is Russian ally. Get it in your heads everybody and expect the worst.

  8. Emergency_Link7328 on

    You need to be kinda stupid to buy anything American in this day and age. Military equipment, more so.

  9. spicypixel on

    guess they’ll have to sell the rockets as scrap to Ukraine 

  10. CharmingTurnover8937 on

    Stop buying US arms.

    They can cut us off at a moment’s notice. You can’t have a sovereign Europe if we persist in using American weapons. Be it these missiles, naval equipment, F-35s and whatever else we license/buy off them, the US can cut us off, and then we have to go back to them hat in hand.

    We simply don’t learn, and the Yanks know that. They also know we can’t step too far out of line because of our dependence on them.

  11. Just-a-French-dude95 on

    As a French I am sorry to brag but…… WE FUCKING TOLD YOU FOR 50 YEARS that this shit will eventually happen 

  12. ambeldit on

    Any surprise, US just has one ally: Israel. All others are just clients or puppet countries.

    Europe must focus on their own army and providers, foreign ones can’t be trusted, except Canada may be.

  13. radiationshield on

    This is not new, it’s been denied since back in the Biden days. Trump sucks, but this is business as usual

  14. Decent_Brick1150 on

    As a Canadian that lives near the border I’ve learned that Americans can be dicks, doesn’t matter who they vote for.

  15. tachyon534 on

    Stop buying weapons from these treacherous fucks. They are not our ally anymore. Europe needs to wake up to this new geopolitical reality.

  16. Ok_Woodpecker17897 on

    Just build your own. With Germany’s industrial base there’s no need for overpriced American systems.

  17. mascachopo on

    The US turning its back to Europe must be one of the stupidest things to ever happen in global politics. And all because one single person is being blackmailed by Putin.

  18. Eckanati64 on

    Well, screw you anyway. It’s about time Europe starts becoming less dependent on other outside powers

  19. I WILL probably be downvoted for saying this but I have to be honest… the argument is that, even the Biden admin refused such demands because the US want to protect its technology and agreeing to the German demands would open potential technology transfer. That’s what I get from the article. And if true, it is perfectly normal for a country to protect its core technology from unwanted transfer, even more to a country that is re-arming

    I am pro-EU, however Germany has the habit of trying to force technology transfer to them. They try to this this for decades with France (now I know most people are aligning with the Germans to blame the lack of cooperation to France, but the point here is that France is legitimate to protect its investment it has made for decades, same for the US).

    Now, maybe I misread the article, English isn’t my primary not my secondary language.

    But if I don’t misread it, I would like to point out, of all the countries re-arming, Germany is the country forcing the most technology transfer. Be it France, the US or anyone else, this way of operating isn’t legitimate.

  20. TianZiGaming on

    >The German government has made multiple such requests over the past several years. Still, neither the Biden nor the Trump administration has shown openness, according to German and American government sources.

    But Trump is more fun to blame.

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