Il Regno Unito sta “sviluppando rapidamente” piani per prepararsi alla guerra, afferma il ministro delle Forze armate
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-rapidly-developing-plans-to-prepare-for-war-says-armed-forces-minister-13482403
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26 commenti
Industries… oh yes would be nice to have some steel.mills and oil refineries to lessen our reliance on imports. Oh wait….
Are we afraid that a dying Putin regime will go “fuck it” and will lead to an all out war? But surely they’re significantly weakened? What will this “war” look like?
Well they can fuck off if they think I’m gonna be a part of those plans.
Sink the Russian shadow fleet and let them collapse already.
‘Plans’ eh – I’m sure Putin will be afraid of ‘plans’
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Honestly I don’t care, the government have screwed us 20s-30s year old more time than we can count, don’t expect many more 18 year olds to sign up for the army.
“Developing plans to prepare for war?” That’s like saying I’m thinking about thinking about losing weight. It’s a nothingburger.
Interpretation: “I have been approached by extremely wealthy arms dealers and arms manufacturing companies who have offered to set me up financially for life if I can persuade my government to increase defence spending budget and drive purchases of specific arms from specific arms dealers….”
ships removed from service since their defence review in 2024:
2 fleet tankers
2 amphibious assault ships
RFA Argus (she’s pretty much gone anyway)
2 frigates
1 mine countermeasures vessel
ships ordered or entered service:
0
Just to clarify –
The UK nor indeed NATO are actively expecting Russia to expand their war. They’re struggling to take one region of Ukraine which is totally flat, borders their country, is sparsely populated, and has been home to Russian backed militants since Ukraine became independent 35 years ago. They aren’t anywhere NEAR ready to start on Europe.
But “fail to prepare, prepare to fail” – what the Ukraine war *has* done is expose just how cut-to-the-bone our own armed forces are and now is a perfect time to fix them. All of NATO is now looking to get back on a Cold War spending level and when people are struggling to pay the bills, fear is a perfect tried-and-tested way to get the public on-side when it comes to massive increases in military spending.
Look at all the comments here saying “I wouldn’t join up to fight” – you wouldn’t have to. If it really *did* kick off, any military analyst or expert worth their salt says it would go nuclear in 48-72 hours. There wouldn’t even be time to deploy our active servicemen.
So the fact they can say “no no, don’t worry, you won’t have to fight, we’re going to spend hundreds of billions making sure that doesn’t happen” gives you a little “phew, OK, you go right ahead, I’ll happily pay a bit more tax in return for not being drafted”.
FWIW – the reason the Cold War didn’t go hot is largely *because* we spent so much on military force and defence.
Aren’t they always developing plans.
I get that things are precarious right now, but there is a degree of politics at play. The more senior military figures keep the threat in the public, the more they can justify the chunk of tax money spent in defence.
I in no way mean to diminish th threat, other than the recent US national Security Strategy not much has changed in the last six months.
Cut back the army to a bare bones national defense force. No point fielding troops to die in Poland or wherever. Our ~200 Chally 2s are a rounding error
Pump money into air/missile defence, drones, a massive ramp up of the navy and the air force – our actual strong points.
Oh, and maybe pay troops properly…
Good.
We were caught horribly unprepared in both previous world wars and it cost lives unnecessarily.
To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.
If I’m conscripted, I will happily pilot a drone provided I can WFH at least 3 days a week.
Other than that, the cost of commuting will be probably be too big and I’ll have to politely decline.
Billionaires developing plans for the poors to sacrifice themselves at the altar of their largesse.
They can fight it themselves, I’m not playing.
Knee jerk reaction. Ukraine war, US threatens to leave NATO and so on. Now some people woke up and be like blimey we should do more to prepare for wars.
Military preparation requires clear strategy, long term plans and more importantly committed efforts for long time.
Spending cut and reducing forces at one time, and then rapidly ramping up the next time, is not preparation for wars.
This has been apparent for the last 3 years it only recently it has become really obvious.
I have been saying for a while now that we are in war time pre preparations.
I cannot say how i have come to this conclusion before i have seen it in the news but it is obvious once you take it all into account even some of the recent tax change and limiting on personal freedoms.
And it not just us it seem to be a large collection of European countries and a few African ones i have not notice anything in regard to Asia but i just assume i do not read much in the way of news but judging by some recent action i would say there is movement there too.
Or I’m a a paranoid nut and just see pattern that don’t exist.
Article mentions shadow war. Funny the headline doesnt mention that.
Developing plans to prepare for war. Sounds like a big fat nothing to me
We should be fine.Facebook has lead me to believe we have more than enough patriots ready and willing to fight for their country, they just need the go ahead.
Get the fucking longbows out. I’ve been waiting for this day.
Future historians (if there are going to be future historians…) are going to find our complacency crazy when looking back.
We’re being outright warned now, and comment sections are still wall to wall snarky jokes and wisecracks.
It’s wild.
We should probably clarify that whilst the word Rapid is developed from the French rapìde, they mean completely the opposite…
Attempting to fight a real war would immediately reveal the scale of the catastrophe that this country has undergone over the past several decades.
Obvious next stage to keep funnelling the money away from the public.