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    “Il male assoluto”: angoscia e rabbia per i sudafricani indotti con l’inganno a combattere per la Russia

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/dec/14/south-africans-tricked-fighting-for-russia-ukraine

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    2. Lucker_Noob on

      I’m honestly confused here. If you recruit people who were tricked, forced and/or really don’t want to be there, won’t you end up with desertions or, even worse, fragging?
      [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragging)

    3. poklane on

      Saying you’re being tricked to fight in the Russian army here is like crying about getting wet after jumping into a pool: you’re a fucking idiot and got what you deserved.

    4. Shoddy-Childhood-511 on

      The fun part comes when one of these guys gets captured and repeats tehse claims on the record, because then this Russian stooge Duduzile Zuma-Sambudla could face whatever “human trafficing” or “slavery” charges exist in South Africa. It’s possible South Africa takes that seriously. lol

    5. SnooHesitations1020 on

      Sad for the mother, but honestly – that’s what you get for believing a Russian.

    6. iwaterboardheathens on

      My countrymen deserve no sympathy

      They have internet and basic education

    7. DocGreenthumb77 on

      I call bullshit on this. In contrast to Ukraine where they are abducting young men from the streets to send them to the front, Russia has plenty of volunteers who receive intensive training before they go into the fight. This allows for a healthy rotation of troops and high overall moral.

      Here is more information on what’s actually going on for those who dare looking beyond the western propaganda media:

      https://youtu.be/BLKNvTvUEwE?si=N1UtBOpHOz3F2UHr

    8. PM-ME-UNCUT-COCKS on

      > “She said that Zuma-Sambudla contacted the family in June with what she presented as an exciting opportunity in Russia.
      >Some of the men were allegedly told they would be trained as bodyguards for the uMkhonto we Sizwe (MK) party, led by Jacob Zuma. Others were allegedly told they could enrol on a personal development programme, after which they could attend a Russian university and even get Russian citizenship.
      >Mary and her son were initially wary, before agreeing. “I remember asking for contracts for the school where they were going to do the course and it was just so rushed,” Mary said. “Like: ‘They need to go, they need to go urgently.’”

      Then, later:

      > “Zuma-Sambudla has also frequently declared her support of Russia. On 22 February 2022, the day of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, she posted on X: “We Love You Both LOUDLY And UNAPOLOGETICALLY So … I’ll Drink To That,” with a photo of her father and Putin toasting.”

      I mean, my sympathies for the people about to get turned into fertiliser, but if you were too stupid to see that one coming, you’re too stupid to claim you got tricked.

    9. Dragon2906 on

      Ukrainian military claimed they see a lot of non-Russian enemy soldiers. And there have been many messages about foreigners being recruited or even forced to fight for Russia

    10. GreaterGoodIreland on

      Ha, the inevitable consequence of their own decisions. Same with the Indian guys getting caught by the same thing.

      South Africa is a joke of a country.

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