Senza lavoro e sussidi: perché la Gran Bretagna non funziona

Here we go again, mental health care in the UK is terrible, it’s pretty much “CBT and that’s your lot” (aka, cheap and aimed at convincing the patient that there isn’t actually a problem which needs addressing), if you need anything else it’s either non-existent or private only with huge waiting lists.

Employers have a major role here, those with health issues (particularly the likes of MS / Fibro / etc) have trouble committing to regular hours, enter the bradford factor and whoosh, they’re gone. Or more likely not employed in the first place, discrimination legislation? Yeah, try proving there wasn’t a “better” candidate.

That’s before we factor in public transport and disability, etc etc

I find very worrying how in my area where I live at least, we seem to applaud not working.

Highest unemployment rate for over a decade, excluding the period during the pandemic.

Utter insanity to think we brought around 1 million migrants for 3 successive years under the guise of “we need the employment”

There’s plenty of work in construction but it’s hard tiring work

The employment issues for people without health issues need to be addressed before we look at people with health issues. There needs to be more reporting on underemployment and an inclusion of that in unemployment figures to get a real view of the situation.

The system incentivises not working. Unfortunately for many the bundle of social housing, with an almost free motability car, topped up with some cash every month, is much more comfortable than slaving away just to pay a mortgage and car finance.

I live in a council estate and in just my immediate proximity, there are 4 individuals who claim they just can’t work. At the same time they are out partying, having spouses, kids, and very busy social lives.

The article talks about why a quarter of working age people are disabled. My story is that the NHS failed to identify or diagnose my chronic condition until far too late. 10 years too late. Now one of my organs is failing and almost certainly requires transplant.

I cannot be the only person in this category who would’ve had better outcomes with a properly functioning health service.

I support prison leavers and most of them are desperate for a job, any job, any hours, any situation, any pay. But employers won’t hire them. At all. So we have thousands upon thousands of people with criminal records effectively shut out of employment forever. They live on UC. They go to the jobcentre, have pointless conversations with work coaches who totally understand they are unemployable, perhaps take a forklift driving class or attend the Restart programme, but none of these alleviates the simple fact that employers won’t hire people with criminal records – don’t talk to me about Timpsons or the handful of organisations who cherry pick a select few carefully chosen prison leavers to hire as a marketing gimmick, the vast majority of employers won’t hire someone with unspent convictions.

There’s also the humiliation factor: after being turned down for hundreds of jobs people can’t stand the humiliation of being refused for employment and begin telling themselves that they don’t want to work, and that they’re happier being unemployed. But in most cases, this is a lie they tell themselves to save their egos from the constant torture of being rejected by employers.

The constant narrative is ‘blame the work shy’ when the focus really should be on employers: why isn’t the government and the public demanding that employers become more open minded about whom they hire and how they engage with people who’ve been out of work? Let’s get some hard-hitting media pieces about the laziness of HR departments and profit-driven motives of business owners who favour fast-buck over developing sustainable businesses that support communities…

Okay I hope this isnt a stupid question, but can someone explain what you can receive on benefits? The weekly payments look low to survive on but are your bills covered as well?

I kmow this is probably ignorant but I have been very fortunate not to have needed them so far

The right/Tories/middle England: People on benefits (*insert pantomime booooooo*) are getting too much money! It’s ridiculous that they are getting as much as they would in an actual job!!!!

The right/Tories/middle England when minimum wage for “an actual job” goes up: WTF this is ridiculous! How can someone on minimum wage be earning 12 QUID AN HOUR, back in my day it was £3 and that was your lot!!!! How can someone working in Primark be getting that much!!!!

I wish they’d just admit it and say that they hate all people who aren’t higher rate taxpayers.

Just can’t get the staff to work in my asbestos mines for £20 a day anymore. This generation are lazy oafs! They need a good war to pull them up by the bootstraps!