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  1. Unhappy_Sugar_5091 on

    EU has been bending to everything, people outside and now even the incompetent industry bosses inside.

  2. I’d like to meet the person who believes both:

    1. Relaxing mandates will cause the west to lose the “EV Race”.

    2. The west is actually capable of “winning” this race if the mandates remained.

    It’s easy to conclude 1 but who actually believes 2? By what measure? Not on cost that’s for sure.

  3. sorE_doG on

    Transition to sodium cells will kill off all Lithium powered cars in no time /s

  4. Need_For_Speed73 on

    It’s always the EU’s fault. For years I’ve been hearing the (Russia supported) propaganda that the 2035 ICE ban was killing the European car industry and that would have only made China happy. Now that they have come to some sort of reason for a more slow transition: “The EU wants to poison us with gas engines”.
    Choose your side, it’s either one or the other.

  5. suiluhthrown78 on

    China has substandard labour and environmental laws and has taken steps to foolproof the entire supply chain by dedicating unlimited state-cash and statecraft resources to this singular goal.

    No one wants any of the above, so relaxing the laws was inevitable.

    Whoever made those targets in the first place without any of the above to go alongisde it should get the blame, not the current Commission who are having to deal with a bad hand.

  6. robidaan on

    To be fair I doubt they would have caught up, better take your loss and start with something we are better at.

  7. Suikerspin_Ei on

    The race is not fully lost, European car brands are still going to release new EVs. Volkswagen showed their new ID Polo, the entry level model will cost the same as the current Polo running on petrol.

    Renault is also doing great with their Renault 5, even Ford wants to use that platform for their own small EV car in Europe.

  8. PrestigiousAssist689 on

    Looks like christmas. Politics in europe for once listened to those actually doing the job in europe.

  9. Pozos1996 on

    I heard that European companies were investing their earning in the USA stock market, instead on investing in R&D and in infrastructure in Europe, if this is true then why should I, a European help save them? If my purchase will move money offshore why should I not pick the Chinese option which is cheaper for my pocket?

  10. EU automakers know that ICE market is not dying and will remain strong for many use cases where there’s no alternative, so they want to be able to compete in this segment, instead of capitalulating to import of “used” ICE cars from Asia

  11. EU “leaders” are a bunch or cowards that want to keep in line by oil autocracies.

  12. VicenteOlisipo on

    I’m against this too, but the sensationalism is off the charts. What was agreed was that brands could sell 10% of ICE cars.

  13. GrowingHeadache on

    If the play is that they need more time to get the supply chain properly setup in Europe, i can get behind that reasoning. I do believe they could have done a lot more, but so could have the EU.
    It is in Europe’s interest to have the auto industry, and if China overtakes is in our own markets, we have a very big problem.

    I would like to see a big tariff on batteries from outside the EU, with incentives to get batteries here.

  14. zanzara1968 on

    Who care about the race, they want to squeeze the last drops from the industry and then sell them to Africa.

  15. doodmakert on

    Nice now we can get more cancer and more value for the shareholders

  16. PsychologicalWar6517 on

    The only way forward for Europe is to force Chinese EV companies set up joint ventures in EU, and transfer their know how to European automakers. There’s no shame in that, every country does that.

    EVs are better than ICE in every way possible in China now. ICEs are just like old mechanical cameras when digital cameras came out, which was rapidly becoming obsolete. The world will not need ICE cars outside of few luxury car niech, no matter what EU law makers do.

    I was working with a Chinese minning company in Africa, and their entire truck fleet was Electric trucks from Chinese producers. Electric vihicles are simply more reliable, since there’s way less moving parts. That’s a huge pro in Africa where maintanance is difficult. On top of that, the fuel cost is way down, the assistance features are better, and the prices are about the same with ICE trucks. There’s just no reason for new mining sites to buy ICE trucks anymore.

    Now if even Africa is going electric, the only thing holding Europe back is simply consumer mindsite. And that will change over time when people see consumers from other places keep getting the better product with better deal. No one will be stubborn agianst their wollets.

  17. BigDummy1286 on

    So letting state subsidized, money losing foreign EV companies (BYD makes most of its money on PHEVs) continue their race to the bottom while Europe continues to make ICE cars with heritage that consumers actually want?

    Got it.

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