What AI is good for is processing purchase orders without having a human touch them, planning manufacturing, and issuing pick lists. Robotics are behind so humans are still better at picking goods and say, doing assembly. So the bottleneck just moves. You can increase output if you have more humans doing manual work, which is what will happen, the low skill clerical job moving to manual work.
StrangelyBrown on
AI will take jobs, but there’s still plenty it can’t do that anyone can.
It really reminds me of American comedian Doug Stanhope talking about Mexican immigrants coming in who can’t speak English and coming even without half their clothes sometimes, and how if that person can take your job, maybe reach for a better job.
DudFuse on
Anyone comparing AI to the industrial revolution or any other paradigm shifting pre-AI tech is sugar coating the situation.
Until now, we have invented things that made us far more efficient but still relied on human labour: you needed a human to design the loom, build the loom, operate it, maintain it, sell/transport/process its yield to become a usable retail product. Then you needed a human to buy that product.
What AI will *eventually* do is eliminate all those roles *except the last one*: the consumer. The problem is, most consumers can only consume because they’re selling their labour, so what happens to the entire system when the value of human labour approaches zero?
We are about to sever a link in the chain that underpins our entire way of life and we don’t have a plan. We need to talk about UBI, and we need to talk about it *right fucking now*.
Ok-Comparison-2093 on
Honestly, I think companies just want to reduce headcount anyway, they are just blaming AI.
I’m skeptical about AI improving productivity, like these tools have been in the wild for a few years now, where’s the growth? Where are the profits for companies adopting AI? Everyone seems to be using ChatGPT, or whatever, to write everything, but we don’t seem to be living in a booming economy.
Profits from the industrial revolution may not have been evenly split, but at least building factories created jobs, how can a trend that claims to reduce employment lead to actual growth?
It just seems to me to be a continuation of the trend of less money for workers, more money for investors. Wealth being concentrated in fewer hands.
MattDubh on
Aren’t positions like his the sort that could be most easily done by an AI?
average_as_hell on
Our company implemented an AI to do ticket reviews to fail you on kpi. So it would review you on tickets time open, when the last update was, how the update was written, so on and so forth.
My argument to management was why they were weaponising an AI to make their staff look bad? Surely its a productivity tool not a tool to review the human element of the business.
So one of our team, using easily available AI tools built a competing AI that could review his queue, work out where he was risking kpis and then offer suggestions to ensure he doesn’t fail them and make his day more efficient.
All these AI tools are being handed to middle managers that only reason to exist is to harrass and make the employees miserable
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He is of course right:
What AI is good for is processing purchase orders without having a human touch them, planning manufacturing, and issuing pick lists. Robotics are behind so humans are still better at picking goods and say, doing assembly. So the bottleneck just moves. You can increase output if you have more humans doing manual work, which is what will happen, the low skill clerical job moving to manual work.
AI will take jobs, but there’s still plenty it can’t do that anyone can.
It really reminds me of American comedian Doug Stanhope talking about Mexican immigrants coming in who can’t speak English and coming even without half their clothes sometimes, and how if that person can take your job, maybe reach for a better job.
Anyone comparing AI to the industrial revolution or any other paradigm shifting pre-AI tech is sugar coating the situation.
Until now, we have invented things that made us far more efficient but still relied on human labour: you needed a human to design the loom, build the loom, operate it, maintain it, sell/transport/process its yield to become a usable retail product. Then you needed a human to buy that product.
What AI will *eventually* do is eliminate all those roles *except the last one*: the consumer. The problem is, most consumers can only consume because they’re selling their labour, so what happens to the entire system when the value of human labour approaches zero?
We are about to sever a link in the chain that underpins our entire way of life and we don’t have a plan. We need to talk about UBI, and we need to talk about it *right fucking now*.
Honestly, I think companies just want to reduce headcount anyway, they are just blaming AI.
I’m skeptical about AI improving productivity, like these tools have been in the wild for a few years now, where’s the growth? Where are the profits for companies adopting AI? Everyone seems to be using ChatGPT, or whatever, to write everything, but we don’t seem to be living in a booming economy.
Profits from the industrial revolution may not have been evenly split, but at least building factories created jobs, how can a trend that claims to reduce employment lead to actual growth?
It just seems to me to be a continuation of the trend of less money for workers, more money for investors. Wealth being concentrated in fewer hands.
Aren’t positions like his the sort that could be most easily done by an AI?
Our company implemented an AI to do ticket reviews to fail you on kpi. So it would review you on tickets time open, when the last update was, how the update was written, so on and so forth.
My argument to management was why they were weaponising an AI to make their staff look bad? Surely its a productivity tool not a tool to review the human element of the business.
So one of our team, using easily available AI tools built a competing AI that could review his queue, work out where he was risking kpis and then offer suggestions to ensure he doesn’t fail them and make his day more efficient.
All these AI tools are being handed to middle managers that only reason to exist is to harrass and make the employees miserable